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I act for a burmese pro democracy activist who has a yahoo group and a simple website. I need to show that the Burmese Junta and their agents are aware of his activities. He tells me that his email is often targeted with viruses and such like and he thinks its from the Burmese Authorities. For my part his inbox looks not to different in my view to most with a collection of junk with atachments you would be mad to click on. My understanding of these things is that virus attacks are likely to come from " slave " computers which would not likely be in Burma. He also reports emails on Anti govt burmese sites which purport to come from him but do not and whos contents are calculated to discredit him. This seems a more fruitful possible line of enquiry. Is there an easy way for a non Techie like me to find who really sent them and to identify country of origin.
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Hi Richard
The key is to view full headers for the email. The originating IP address can be found within the header information, but you will need to know what you are looking for as there may be several IPs listed tracing the email's journey around the world. Only one will be the originating address. Instructions for displaying the full header vary depending on the email software you are using. e.g. Outlook, Outlook Express, Thunderbird. A typical header looks like this although there are many variations and the originating IP is not always as obvious: (The sender's email address has been altered in the above example) Once you have the originating IP address you then need to do a WHOIS search on the internet to see who the Internet provider is. One of many places you can do this is http://www.samspade.org/ In the above example the email originated from 212.219.188.4 which is: fpnetworkbox.leicestercollege.ac.uk descr: Leicester College country: GB So, if the person sending the above email had said they were in Thailand, they'd be telling porkies. Paul พอล เข้าเมืองตาหลิ่วต้องหลิ่วตาตาม |
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Paul am I right in assuming that if an email was sent from hotmail, yahoo or one of the other free on line email servers the IP would not be correct for the originating country ?
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Wrong assumption I'm afraid, sending via webmail does not hide the originating IP address. Within the header of the email there will be a whole load of other IP addresses listed (e.g. US Hotmail servers), but the originating IP of the computer you sent the message from will also be there.
The above example was sent to me using BKKmail, a webmail service using Outblaze mail servers in Hong Kong, so there are several Hong Kong IP addresses in the header. However, the Internet Provider of the computer used to send the message is still listed, in the above example that was Leicester College in the UK. The same goes for mail sent using Hotmail, Yahoo, etc. Regards Paul พอล เข้าเมืองตาหลิ่วต้องหลิ่วตาตาม |
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Stop giving our secrets away Paul.
There could be a troll watching! Usually is Lee |
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Of course if the email is sent via a remote desktop connection to a computer in another country then the originating IP address would be hidden , but we are all honest chaps here
ash We all live under the same sky, but we don’t all have the same horizon.- Konrad Adenauer |
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You've got to be a bit smarter than that to get away with it, but there are ways to, on the face of it, remain anonymous, but we won't go into that here. Paul พอล เข้าเมืองตาหลิ่วต้องหลิ่วตาตาม |
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I knew that gobbledegook looked familiar Steve aka Rolyshark |
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Cheers all I am off to do some sloothing. I remember last time I was in Burma it was the fourth day I had crossed the border at 8am. The Immigration officer asks me why I keep visiting. I just answered " I just love Myanmar too much "
Richard |
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