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As I normally cannot sleep on the plane, I now and again use Zopiclone which my GP is happy to give me.
However, a well known side effect is that for about 24hrs after your mouth tastes like a rusty bucket.Does anyone know of anything you can eat or drink that will lessen the effect.Even a curry or hot chilli seems to have no effect.
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i used to take this and had similar side effects. starburst and lots of water is the only cure.
 
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I use stilnoct (Zolpidem) which is a different type of medicine it has fewer side effects and is very effective.

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Why would you want to sleep with all the wonderful entertainment provided free throughout your journey? I am thinking of crying children, bumps to your head by the person who has visited the loo 5 times already, the woman vomitting in the seat near by. And if you do dose off the cabin crew member who wants to know if you would like a drink.
 
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Why would you want to sleep with all the wonderful entertainment provided free throughout your journey? I am thinking of crying children, bumps to your head by the person who has visited the loo 5 times already, the woman vomitting in the seat near by. And if you do dose off the cabin crew member who wants to know if you would like a drink.


Is this wonderful time to be had on a specific Airline? as none of the web sites I look at mention this exciting experience only fab food, comfort and in flight movies Big Grin
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Zopiclone works great for me. My tabs are 7.5mg. This guarantees me a good sleep and absolutely no after-effect.
Are you taking same dosage?
 
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If I need to sleep I use night nurse, even if I don't have cold. Works wonders for me.
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Doesn't your snoring keep her awake though Gary Wink


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Booze = sleep nuff said Big Grin
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I alway book the flight for the day after my night shift...
Work all night,stayup all day and fly out during the evening .. Bish bash bosh I'm out like a light!

As for screaming kids the beloved deal with them LOL
 
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Doesn't your snoring keep her awake though Gary Wink

I told you never to mention the snoring, now everyone will want to know how you know Big Grin
 
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now everyone will want to know how you know

Youtube of course Wink


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All drugs have side effects if they didn't they wouldn't be working. Just because you aren't aware of them doesn't mean they aren't there. Learn self hypnosis and stop taking the tablets.
 
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All drugs have side effects if they didn't they wouldn't be working. Just because you aren't aware of them doesn't mean they aren't there. Learn self hypnosis and stop taking the tablets.


My god a writer and a pharmaceutical chemist must be nice in cloud cuckoo land. Drugs work if the planned effect is present , any side effects are incidental.


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Learn self hypnosis and stop taking the tablets.


Are you on the Board of NICE ?? if you aren't maybe you should apply for a job, you'd save the NHS a fortune. Who needs drugs when hypnosis is free LOL
 
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I do a 'cocktail' of Colin and Gary. Chez Gerard in Terminal 3 for the vino blanc and then the Night Nurse about 21.00. Flight delayed one time on the pan for 45 mins, take off in the land of nod, woke up over India.
 
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ASH
Before you are so blase about your assertions consider the following




Thalidomide 1950s–1960s Withdrawn because of risk of teratogenicity; returned to market for use in leprosy and multiple myeloma under FDA orphan drug rules
Lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) 1950s–1960s Marketed as a psychiatric cure-all; withdrawn after it became widely used recreationally
Diethylstilbestrol 1970s Withdrawn because of risk of teratogenicity
Phenformin and Buformin 1978 Withdrawn because of risk of lactic acidosis
Ticrynafen 1982 Withdrawn because of risk of hepatitis
Zimelidine 1983 Withdrawn worldwide because of risk of Guillain-Barré syndrome
Methaqualone 1984 Withdrawn because of risk of addiction and overdose.
Triazolam 1991 Withdrawn in the United Kingdom because of risk of psychiatric adverse drug reactions. This drug continues to be available in the U.S.
Temafloxacin 1992 Withdrawn in the United States because of allergic reactions and cases of hemolytic anemia, leading to three patient deaths.[1]
Alpidem (Ananxyl) 1996 Withdrawn because of rare but serious hepatotoxicity.
Fen-phen (popular combination of fenfluramine and phentermine) 1997 Phentermine remains on the market, dexfenfluramine and fenfluramine – later withdrawn as caused heart valve disorder
Tolrestat (Alredase) 1997 Withdrawn because of risk of severe hepatotoxicity
Terfenadine (Seldane) 1998 Withdrawn because of risk of cardiac arrhythmias; superseded by fexofenadine
Mibefradil (Posicor) 1998 Withdrawn because of dangerous interactions with other drugs
Temazepam (Restoril, Euhypnos, Normison, Remestan, Tenox, Norkotral) 1999 Withdrawn in Sweden and Norway because of diversion, abuse, and a relatively high rate of overdose deaths in comparison to other drugs of its group. This drug continues to be available in the U.S.
Astemizole (Hismanal) 1999 Arrhythmias because of interactions with other drugs
Troglitazone (Rezulin) 2000 Withdrawn because of risk of hepatotoxicity; superseded by pioglitazone and rosiglitazone
Alosetron (Lotronex) 2000 Withdrawn because of risk of fatal complications of constipation; reintroduced 2002 on a restricted basis
Cisapride (Propulsid) 2000s Withdrawn in many countries because of risk of cardiac arrhythmias
Amineptine (Survector) 2000 Withdrawn because of hepatotoxicity, dermatological side effects, and abuse potential.
Phenylpropanolamine (Propagest, Dexatrim) 2000 Withdrawn because of risk of stroke in women under 50 years of age when taken at high doses (75mg twice daily) for weight loss.
Trovafloxacin (Trovan) 2001 Withdrawn because of risk of liver failure
cerivastatin (Baycol, Lipobay) 2001 Withdrawn because of risk of rhabdomyolysis
Rapacuronium (Raplon) 2001 Withdrawn in many countries because of risk of fatal bronchospasm
Rofecoxib (Vioxx) 2004 Withdrawn because of risk of myocardial infarction
mixed amphetamine salts (Adderall XR) 2005 Withdrawn in Canada because of risk of stroke. See Health Canada press release
hydromorphone extended-release (Palladone) 2005 Withdrawn because of a high risk of accidental overdose when administered with alcohol
Pemoline (Cylert) 2005 Withdrawn from U.S. market because of hepatotoxicity
Natalizumab (Tysabri) 2005-2006 Voluntarily withdrawn from U.S. market because of risk of Progressive multifocal leukoencephalopathy (PML). Returned to market July, 2006.
Ximelagatran (Exanta) 2006 Withdrawn because of risk of hepatotoxicity (liver damage).
Tegaserod (Zelnorm) 2007 Withdrawn because of imbalance of cardiovascular ischemic events, including heart attack and stroke.
Aprotinin (Trasylol) 2007 Withdrawn because of increased risk of complications or death; permanently withdrawn in 2008 except for research use
Lumiracoxib 2007-2008 Progressively withdrawn around the world because of serious side effects, mainly liver damage.

This list above is not exhaustive, found in one minute on the internet.

I myself was prescribed celebrex in france as an "Absolutely safe 24 hr anti arthritic drug" One month later the doctor told me that in light of my medical history it was absolutely unsafe as details of the strokes it caused all over the world leaked out. Your blinkered and cavalier views contribute to a culture which allows the overuse and overprescription of so many drugs like antibiotics, antidepressants, ADHD etc etc. If you find it unreasonable that I should advise someone try to eschew drugs you are an idiot. I'm not a pharmaceutical chemist, I am a qualified hypnotherapist and NLP practioner and have worked in five different countries. Apart from an ability to open a big mouth and put your foot in it what qualifies you to pass judgement on me? Remember sometimes that rattling sound when you shake your head? It's your brain, try using it.
 
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Dear Ash here are a few more reasons to avoid zopiclone if you can

bitter or metallic after-taste in the mouth (frequent side effect).

Diarrhoea, constipation, tummy ache, feeling or being sick, dry mouth, drowsiness, headache, dizziness (less common).

Irritability, confusion, hallucinations and nightmares.

Light-headedness and lack of co-ordination (rare). FDA Reported Zopiclone Side Effects: coordination abnormal, overdose, loss of consciousness, transient ischaemic attack, muscular weakness, dysarthria, drooling, blood creatine phosphokinase increased, balance disorder, erythema multiforme.

Health Professional from UNITED KINGDOM reported ZOPICLONE problem on Nov 26, 2007. Female patient, 51 years of age, was treated with ZOPICLONE. After drug was administered, patient experienced the following problems/side effects: mental status changes, overdose, suicidal behaviour.

ZOPICLONE problem was reported by a Health Professional from FRANCE on Nov 05, 2007. Female patient, 72 years of age, was diagnosed with dyslipidaemia, depression and was treated with ZOPICLONE. After drug was administered, patient experienced the following problems/side effects: arthralgia, pulmonary fibrosis

Health Professional from UNITED KINGDOM reported ZOPICLONE problem on Sept 28, 2007. Male patient, 63 years of age, was diagnosed with insomnia, depression, agitation and was treated with ZOPICLONE. After drug was administered, patient experienced the following problems/side effects: completed suicide.


ZOPICLONE problem was reported by a Consumer or non-health professional from UNITED KINGDOM on Aug 08, 2007. Female patient, 37 years of age, was diagnosed with psychotic disorder, depression and was treated with ZOPICLONE. After drug was administered, patient experienced the following problems/side effects: coordination abnormal, loss of consciousness, overdose

Those enough reasons to reconsider Zopiclone?
 
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After drug was administered, patient experienced the following problems/side effects: completed suicide.



Wondered what might have happened if it was something more serious? Eeker
 
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Yes I liked that one too, suicide is a pretty serious side effect.
 
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