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So my point is that one should not be offended by something that is not intended to cause offence.

Amen to that but a friendly explanation of the significance may be in order depending on the time and place
ash

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most christians do not obey this law in the main.
'MOST CHRISTIANS DO' plus the context was that you can't make an image or idol for worship i.e from the amplified bible "Exodus 20:4 You shall not make yourself any graven image [to worship it] or any likeness of anything that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth"

Although not in disagreement to what has been said in earlier posts just one point here: Very many Christians wear a crucifix which signifies Christ on the Cross and say he is in heaven and came from God the Father my point is this is covered by this commandment and it is not obeyed but flaunted.

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Very many Christians wear a crucifix which signifies Christ on the Cross and say he is in heaven and came from God the Father my point is this is covered by this commandment and it is not obeyed but flaunted.

It is not an image that is in anyway worshipped by the vast majority and it is certainly not an image of God. David John please note that the verse from Exodus is not a commandment and refers to images for use as idols as symbols to be worshipped.

ash

I posted an observation on the use of sacred images as decor in a bar/restaurant and Noi's reaction to it. It seems that we are in the minority in feeling that this is wrong, although I feel it is unfortunate that no Thai member has voiced an opinion as I would be very interested in what they have to say on the matter.

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Just checked my in box and found the following

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Thank you for your email
I will look into this matter & revert back to you
We do not intend to offend anyone

Regards

Charlie

My reply

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Thank you for the prompt response.

I am sure that you did not mean to cause offence, and await your further comments in due course.
Thank you

Charlie presumably being the restauranteur?

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Charlie presumably being the restauranteur?

Nah it's got to be Ash

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It is not an image that is in anyway worshipped by the vast majority and it is certainly not an image of God. David John please note that the verse from Exodus is not a commandment and refers to images for use as idols as symbols to be worshipped
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Sorry Ash but I disagree.
I think many people of a christian persuation wear the crucifix and also believe that Christ is the son of God.
Christ himself said to the disciples if you see me then you have seen God.
I also believe, however, that the word that we should have no images is a commandment.
I will not respond to anything more on Christian beliefs here as it is off topic.

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I will not respond to anything more on Christian beliefs here as it is off topic.

Agreed except in the context of religious icons being used as adornments in commercial establishments and not shown proper respect, which is unlikely to bother most Christians and is on topic.

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Agreed except in the context of religious icons being used as adornments in commercial establishments and not shown proper respect, which is unlikely to bother most Christians and is on topic.
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Ash we have agreement.

Now about cartoons on the wall of Mohhamed..........

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... Now about cartoons on the wall of Mohhamed..........

No thanks! Let's stick to one issue at time

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Now about cartoons on the wall of Mohhamed..........

He can have as many cartoons on his wall as he wants its his wall after all
ash

Here in LOS my wife is wearing a crucifix around her neck as decor, as do others. As a Christian, I will forgive her.

After my tongue in cheek comment above, just thought Id mention that here in Hua Hin, the tourist shops have Buddha images a plenty, including statues, heads et all, displayed at all levels - floor upwards. Doesn't seem to be an issue for the Thai's selling the stuff. I asked Ooy and she hadn't any issues about it - she's looking for something for a friend - and felt it had to be placed in context. Wisely, I didn't ask her to expand on that.

It's hot here!

on a recent visit to northern ireland...my wife and i stayed at a small hotel in belfast...when entering our bathroom...we saw image of the budda on the floor near to the toilet.... at first she was shocked....but took the view that the manager/owners....did nt know this could upset....buddist......so she simply asked to talk with the manager/owner and explained to him......and that rather than being in a bathroom it maybe better in another part of the hotel ,somewhere higher and where everyone could see.... the owner did nt know....now he s a wiser man...and as removed the image from the bathroom.....so everyone happy...

What an excellent way to deal with the situation. It's all about communication isn't it sisaket? A gentle chat can bring about the desired result without the need to be indignant and resentful.