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    Hi all

    I'm Thai woman. I just came to UK with spouse visa last March. I have been looking for a permanent job in my field for a month now, but it seems to be very difficult to find one. I heard that UK employers dont seem to care about the qualifications from Thailand, is it true?

    I have bachelor and master of engineering from Chulalongkorn University (the oldest university in Thailand) My English is not that bad, scored 850 from 990 points on TOEIC test. I worked as process engineer for 5 years with 2 big companies in Thailand. I have applied about 20 vacancies now, but only got a few responses and they were unsuccessful

    Anyone has suggestion?

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    Where are you in the UK. ?? You have got to get into a fiercly competitive market with many others. What kind of work are you after. ?

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    just have to keep trying must be a job for you in your field of expertise

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    Did you get your qualifications certified in the UK? This is a service provided by UK NARIC

    This is from the UK NARIC website:-

    "Welcome to UK NARIC - the National Agency responsible for providing information, advice and expert opinion on vocational, academic and professional skills and qualifications from over 180 countries worldwide.

    As the National Agency, managed on behalf of the UK Government, we provide the only official source of information on international qualifications to organisations recruiting from overseas and to individuals wishing to work or study in the UK."


    Cost me £47 for the checking and £27 for a certificate and took about 4 weeks to complete. You can track progress on the web.

    Certainly worth your time investigating this...

    Lee.

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    But we are in a recession and it is going to get much tougher.
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    You've got excellent qualifications from a well-respected University.

    Maybe you should point this out in your CV as UK employers may not be familiar with "Chula", maybe a quote or link?

    http://www.topuniversities.com...ty/?from_search=true

    Good luck with your search


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    I work in the Engineering industry (Diesel Aftermarket area) and at the moment the industry is on its knees.
    We have just had 12 redundancies announced out of about 150 people on site so am a bit nervous at the moment. Hopefully I shall survive but who ever gets the boot it will be tough to get another job in the same line of work in this industry.

    Unfortunately England as a manufacturing country is going down hill and I believe things will only get worse.

    I wish you all the luck in getting a job in this industry but maybe it would be an idea to find something else in the meantime (if it is just a case of wanting to work) as it often works out that once you have a job another comes along.

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    Thank you all for spending your time on my post and giving the suggestions.

    The gardener: I live in Cardiff now, but would not be any problem to relocate elsewhere for a new role. I would like to work in similar environment to previous jobs, process technician or engineer must be great !!

    Bristolgeoff: Thank you.

    Keef & Lee: Nope, I havent got them done. I will look at detail on the recommended website, thank you.

    Caller & Theclawinorbit: I do understand situation, but keep trying. I dont want to be out of my field for too long as it's quite a dynamic movement and new methodology/ technology is added up all the time. Anyway, thank you for your comments.

    Prioritypress: Thank you for your advice, It's good idea. I will consider to put it on my CV.

    Gary & Nok: Thank you again for your comment. Yes, it seems to get worse. Like you said "find something else in the meantime", I applied for jobs in other sections also. I have part-time job now, but only 15 hours or so per week. Fortunately, I just got an offer to work permanently in New branch of Japanese restuarant as Kitchen Staff which will start next month. It will keep me excited with new environment for while. Well, I really need to work, being only housewife would kill me. I did try for 2 months and it was sooooo boring

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    Hi Cassiopeia.
    You posted that you've applied for about 20 vacancies and have yet to be successful in your job search.
    If you don't mind I'd like to ask a few questions please.

    Out of the 20 jobs that you applied for how many did you feel that you were genuinely qualified and had the required experience to do please?

    How did you apply for those positions (CV, covering letter etc)?

    How many of the vacancies (that you were qualified and experienced to do) that you applied for resulted in an interview?

    Once you've answered the above I might be able to offer a little help.

    Conrad

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    Thai CVs tend to be over long with more detail in them than is required in the UK. Two pages is about right for UK job market accompanied with a Covering Letter. Detail of tasks within a previous job should be left until the interview stage.

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    Thai CVs tend to be over long with more detail in them than is required in the UK. Two pages is about right for UK job market accompanied with a Covering Letter. Detail of tasks within a previous job should be left until the interview stage.
    David/John

    My CV runs at 10 pages plus and works fine in the UK and European job market, it really depends on the sector and the individual job type. I receive CVs from Brits regularly and providing the first page is interesting I read further.

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    providing the first page is interesting I read further.
    As do most Employers

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    Thank you for the comments;

    Conrad: Honestly, I applied only when the requirements match with my skills but sometimes agencies do not state what business is all about and it leaves me a blank idea if I could really be a good candidate for that particular vacancy. I always provide my CV, and use covering letter specified detail for each vacancy. Three agencies replied, said my application was unsuccessful because the difference of business. One agency has passed my CV to employer, I am still waiting for the progress. And I just got an email from one agency asked if I would be interested in their vacancy, but the required skills do not match with mine

    DavidJohn: My CV is only one full page, with important and necessary details.

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    Cassiopeia,

    There are a number of different techniques that employers use to sift applicants for job vacancies, from what you’ve posted it would appear that the majority of employers that you are applying to work with are asking for a CV together with a covering letter.

    If a job applicant had the qualifications and experience requested by an employer I would have previously expected that they be invited for an interview for at least 50% of the positions that they apply for. Currently, due to the high level of unemployment I would expect 1 in 3 applications to lead to an interview.
    It would appear that your job applications aren’t resulting in interviews so I would suggest that you look at your covering letters and CV.

    A good covering letter will ensure that your CV gets read by the employer. It should include the title of the vacancy that you’re applying for, where you saw the vacancy advertised and why you feel that you’re suitable for the position (previous experience etc). Remember that this covering letter might be all the information that the employer will look at before discarding your CV so it must really sell you, as a person. Keep it short and to the point whilst ensuring that you let the employer know that you’ve ticked all the boxes in the job advert.

    There are many different types of CV but I feel that for the type of vacancies that you’re applying for a skill based CV might be appropriate.
    Please don’t simply use a generic CV but fine tune your CV for each vacancy that you apply for. Look for key words in the job advertisement and ensure that you include them in your CV. Don’t forget to include personal skills such as team working, leadership, organisational etc. (Don’t just list these skills but provide an example of how you’d utilised these skills in previous roles). Again, like your covering letter, be concise and to the point, two single sides of A4 maximum. If your CV is only one page perhaps you're not including certain skills that an employer is looking for. Have you had any proffessional advice on writing a CV? There are a number of organisations that offer free help with CV creation who might be able to cast an eye over your CV and might be able to offer advice on how to make it more eye catching.
    You mentioned that you are currently working about 15 hours a week. Are you currently receiving Job Seekers Allowance? (you can work up to 16 hours a week and still receive Job Seekers Allowance), if you are I would suggest that next time you're in the Jobcentre you ask if you can book an ad-hoc appointment with a Personel Adviser who would be able to refer you to a 3rd party provider that specialises in CV creation, interview techniques etc.
    Finally, remember that job seeking is a bit like fishing, The more baited hooks you have in the water the more bites you will get.
    Best of luck with your jobseeking.

    Conrad

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    Conrad, thank you so much for your advice. I will try to apply it with my CV and covering letter. I am not receiving Job Seeker Allowance, not too sure if I could. Anyway, I havent been to Jobcentre yet. I will go there next week. Thank you again

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    If you want to be depressed, try watching last weeks channel 4 dispatches. You can view it from the website.
    It might help you realise what your up against.
    Having said that Conrads point about customising things to the job is vital.
    I had to write a job spec' once and its no easy task. Employers give a lot of thought about recruitment, its a major committment.
    I think you also need to realise that employers may use agencies to do the shortlisting. You may need to sell your self to these third party individuals first.
    Can I suggest that you seriously consider many options. Career changes are normal these days. These are not serious suggestions as such but howabout the Education business or retail management. I gave up a career in something I loved after a row with an employer a few years ago and went to work for a well known transport company and never looked back.
    Howbout the emergency services ??? I was talking to a police officer the other day from Poland, SHE seemed very happy.

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    Cassiopeia,

    You could try telephoning employers, to whom you have made unsuccessful applications, to ask them for feedback.

    Good luck,

    Alan

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    Cassiopeia,

    There are two categories of Jobseekers allowance

    1) Contribution based - to be eligible you must have made sufficient national insurance contributions over a certain qualifying period.

    2) Income based - this is dependant on your income and savings. If your partner works over 24 hours a week you probably won't be entitled to Jobseekers allowance.

    I'm not sure if you would be eligible for JSA as I don't know your personal circumstances but if you don't apply you'll never know.

    If you wanted to claim JSA you must first telephone one of the contact centres on 0800 055 6688 - you can't just turn up at the Jobcentre anymore. A word of warning the initial phone call will take at least 30 minutes and a great deal of information is required to build your claim.
    As an alternative have you heard of Career Wales

    I wholeheartedly agree with The Gardner's comments about career changes. After 27 years working in the electronics industry I fancied a complete change of direction and started a new career in May of this year. (I'm now a personel adviser at Jobcentre Plus )

    Conrad

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    Thank you for more suggestions.

    The gardener: I will watch that program tonight, guess it would take my hope I will start working in Japanese restaurant next month, my first time with new environment. Hopefully things will be smooth. I love cooking, I should enjoy it. Emergency Service sounds ok to me, I will have a look in the detail and requirements, thanks

    Big AL: I got the responses from agencies and have no idea who is an employer hmmm ...

    Conrad: Im not Brithish and do not think I could claim anything. Would I be very cheeky to ask you to review my CV and point out what I need to change?

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    Conrad: Im not Brithish and do not think I could claim anything.
    That is no obstacle in this wonderful country of ours!
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