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    Default Adoption/ British Citizenship / British Passport

    Hi,
    I`m currently in the process of adopting my step daughter who is living in England.
    But I wish to give her my surname, which is very important to her. But after adoption / citizenship, I am told it`s very difficult to apply for a British passport while holding a Thai passport in the old surname.
    I hear the British Passport office can make exemptions, ie a letter for the UK Thai Embassy issuing a letter stating they can`t change the name in the Thai Passport, to run along side the Brirtish one. ( but this seems hit or miss taken on each seperate case ).
    Anyone gone through this lately ?.

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    We are in the same situation,our niece has been adopted by us in the UK and has a British passport in one name and her Thai passport in her original surname. Last year, when we were on holiday in Phetchabun we went to the amphur office to change her name to the British name. They would not do it and said that the only way a Thai can change their surname to a foreign name is by marrying a foreigner. They said that we had to get a stamp from the government adoption agency.

    They suggested that we go to Bangkok to the government adoption centre and they could arrange things. (They really didn't know what they were talking about.) It was clear that we were asking for something that no one had asked for before. We phoned the adoption centre who said that we should turn up with our paperwork and they would make a decision in the fullness of time. They wouldn't tell us what paperwork was required, how long it would take or what their process for making the decision was. We explained that we were 400km away and on holiday and they still wouldn't tell us anything useful.

    When we got back I contacted the UK passport office explaining our difficulties and they replied that they would consider having 2 passports in different names if we got a letter from the Thai embassy in London. We emailed them......and didn't get a reply.

    Our niece's British passport runs out about a year before her Thai passport. We are thinking that we will have to let her be without a British passport until the Thai passport runs out and then get her a British passport because she will have only one passport then, so getting it won't be a problem. Then in the future at some time see what happens we she applies for another Thai passport.

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    Hi Steady, I think you were lucky for them to issue a British passport for your niece while she holds a Thai passport in a different surname.
    If the British Passport office does not make an exemption, we may have to start an adoption process in Thailand to run along side the Uk adoption. ( to change the surname). Below is copy of letter from the Thai Embassy from someone who was successful.
    19441170_1813216918705270_1772796588_n.jpgI know people have been successful, but it`s hit or miss.
    When did you adopt ?.

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    We adopted about 3 years ago, before the UK changed the rules about passports. Then it was ok to have different names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steady View Post
    We adopted about 3 years ago, before the UK changed the rules about passports. Then it was ok to have different names.
    Hi,
    With stories I hear today I will have to stay with her old surname, to apply for a British Passport. Maybe later change name by deed poll. The pass port office does not seem to give way on this.

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    If you live in the UK and will only go for shortish holidays to Thailand then maybe you should consider just having a British passport only. I say this because all of our children would rather go to Spain or anywhere else in Europe rather than the long haul to Thailand. Our older daughter (niece) is now going on a school trip to Paris - really easy with a British passport.

    We never use the Thai passports except when going to Thailand which is maybe once every 2 years and our holidays are usually less than 30 days so British passports are fine. It's up to individuals but to me it seems that there is a case for only having a British passport. This will be the case for our niece after her Thai passport expires and she can get a new British one.

    I've resent an email to the Thai embassy asking for a letter from them to help our case. I'll let you know if we get an answer this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steady View Post
    If you live in the UK and will only go for shortish holidays to Thailand then maybe you should consider just having a British passport only. I say this because all of our children would rather go to Spain or anywhere else in Europe rather than the long haul to Thailand. Our older daughter (niece) is now going on a school trip to Paris - really easy with a British passport.

    We never use the Thai passports except when going to Thailand which is maybe once every 2 years and our holidays are usually less than 30 days so British passports are fine. It's up to individuals but to me it seems that there is a case for only having a British passport. This will be the case for our niece after her Thai passport expires and she can get a new British one.

    I've resent an email to the Thai embassy asking for a letter from them to help our case. I'll let you know if we get an answer this time.
    Hi Steady,
    The problem is because my step daughter holds a Thai passport in the old surname, the passport office would not issue a British passport because of the clash of surnames, they do not match.

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    Just a thought is there a way of cancelling the Thai passport via the embassy then she will not have a thai passport so the name not matching will no longer matter. Even washing it so its damaged would make it invalid seems a bit extreme but may be worth checking with the UK and/or Thai authorities
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    My understanding is that having two passports from different countries causes problems but I thought that when one expires then that person only has one passport, so that (remaining) name is the name that counts. Does anyone know something different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steady View Post
    My understanding is that having two passports from different countries causes problems
    ??? You are allowed to be a "Duel National" so having 2 passports is not a problem.

    Nok has a passport in her Laos name and when that runs out she renews it in Laos (or Paris). She also has a British passport (in my name) and when that runs out will renew it here in the UK.

    Neither country is interested in if she holds another passport, at least so far they have not. We were actually told by the Passport office that it is not up to them to tell anyone that she is applying/receiving a British passport so the fact she has one from Laos is irrelevant to them.

    Unless rules have changed and Nok is now in violation of something or other, but that is my understanding.
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    Now when you renew a British passport there is a question asking you to confirm that any other passport you hold is in the same name as the British passport. This is the problem we all now seem to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steady View Post
    Now when you renew a British passport there is a question asking you to confirm that any other passport you hold is in the same name as the British passport. This is the problem we all now seem to have.

    Hi,
    It is fact if you want a British passport it has to match the surname on the Thai passport.

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