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    Default how can someone in Thailand just come to England for a holiday ( not girlfriend)

    Hello Everyone!
    I am new to the site and would like to apologise in advance if this topic has already been covered.
    My Uncle has been having daily conversations with a lady in Thailand. This lady has worked as a teacher for the past 17 years.
    Due to My uncle having a heart attack a few months ago, travel for him would be impossible due to the exclusions on travel insurance.
    As such, he would like to invite this lady and her sister to England for a holiday (approx 3 weeks).
    The lady will have a letter from her school confirming that she will return to her employment once the holiday is over.
    A return ticket will be purchased at the point the visa is granted.
    My uncle has provided a copy of his passport and a letter confirming sponsorship for both ladies.

    The lady actually phoned the Thai Embassy in Bangkok who informed her that as she had not physically met my uncle a visa would be refused. They have informed her that he would have to travel to Thailand and have photos, letters proving a relationship.

    A further three Visa agencies also offered the same advise.
    Surely this can not be correct as there is currently "no relationship" as they have yet to meet.
    Shall we just ask the lady to obtain a holiday visa with no mention of my uncle, or will that make matters worse? This seems ridiculous, does this mean that no one from Thailand can travel for holiday purposes unless they have a "relationship" with someone in that country?

    Any advise or insight on this matter would be gratefully received!

    Shelley

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    There is no reason wht she can't get a visitor's visa on her own account providing she can satisfy the requirements. My friend has been here 3 times that way although I acted as sponsor purely for accommodation but we had met as we've been friends for 11 years.

    I would agree with the advice you've been given though if she wants to use your Uncle as a sponsor through a relationship of sorts. An application using a sponsor she has not met is very unlikely to succeed.

    To come here on her own account she would need to show that she can meet all the financial costs and that she will return to Thailand at the end of her visit/visa. Various ways of doing that if she can show sufficient funding.

    Feel free to ask further questions but I'll just give you a couple of pointers that may help.

    1. A travel itinerary would be a great help.

    2. Money should not be placed in a bank account shortly before the application in order to show sufficient funds.

    Oh and pay particular attention to the reason to return requirement - although if she's been employed as a teacher for 17 years, that will go a long way to satisfying that. Other things like showing close family ties and a stable address will help a lot.

    It is not impossible to come to the UK for a holiday - thousands of Thai's do it every year but I'd guess in the main, the ones without sponsorship are reasonably well off.
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    I recently had my friends visa refused due to insufficient proof of a genuine relationship I resubmitted with a small rainforest of social media and phots and was succesful. You do not need to use an agency but you will need proof of relationship if you are sponsoring a visitor.

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    Thank you for your advice!
    From what you have told me, it sounds as if it would be wise for my Uncle to stay out of the visa completely.
    This is a shame as the lady would then have to have enough money to show accommodation costs as well.
    Is there a way around this ie, that she would stay at my uncles home on a "rented basis"?
    I really appreciate your advice and help, as these are very uncharted waters for us and it is a little confusing.

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    Personally I would leave your Uncle out of it. If you want to include him you could try stating they have become friends online and the lady, wishing to visit the UK in any case, decided to accept his offer of accommodation and that he will show her around the UK. He will have to write a letter describing his accommodation and stating that he has invited her to stay should she visit the UK.

    To be fair, there's not a lot wrong with that, its more or less what my friend does when she comes over - I just explain that we have been friends for years and confirm that she is welcome to stay at my house.

    I'm not suggesting for one minute that your Uncle would try to 'cook the books' but if he wishes to help with the costs of the trip - any contributions should be in her bank account for quite some time before she applies. Also better to send several smaller amounts rather than one lump. There must be no mention of this or your back to the original problem.

    I would add a note of caution - your Uncle needs to be absolutely sure about this woman before he sends any money. She wouldn't be the first to simply disappear once she's received cash.

    I'm away to Thailand today so if you need any further help, you should find that other members will be very helpful.

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    Just a quick addition:

    When I say that's what my friend does.......of course we have met many times but I don't really think that makes any difference. It would if we were claiming to be in a relationship, her trip was solely to visit me and I was acting as her sponsor.

    Back to your first post - I fully understand why you might think its impossible for a Thai person to visit the UK without being in a relationship but I think that comes from reading forums like this or hearsay. The reality, if you are in employment, live a stable life, can show that its a genuine visit and you will return to Thailand is actually very different. The authorities are simply wishing to prevent those who are just trying to get into the UK and stay from doing so. However, I wouldn't be the first person who thinks that from time to time they can get a little over-zealous in doing so .

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    totally agree flip Thails are allowed to go on holiday just prove they have the funds and so so and everything is ok its just like us now if we want to travel to aussie usa fill the forms in away you go

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    Be advised that some very strict holiday rules apply to Thai gov teachers. If she was going for three weeks I can only assume the school grants permission during the Thai new year (April) with a further week of absence.
    (My Thai family in laws are all teachers)
    Their are Thais that simply book in advance via a travel agent (who pre-book and give full intinery for a small deposit) leaving only the 'reason to return' question.
    Being a teacher with 17 years behind her qualifies her for a pension and salary. Good reason to return
    Judging others before you have met isn't a wise option.

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    Hi Everyone, just wanted to thank you all for the replies.
    My uncle has actually managed to get travel insurance cover and is of to Thailand in 20 days!
    He is going to stay with lady and her sister for the duration of his holiday. They plan to take things slowly and really get to know each other as friends in the first instance.
    He has been advised to take lots of photos during holiday and plans to help fill in visa application with her during his stay. Hopefully once visa is granted she will be able to visit England in April. Fingers crossed!
    I am sure we will both be logging on from time to time with questions, but just wanted to let you know how much we both appreciated your help!

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