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    I think renting depends a lot on the location. In Bangkok, Pattaya and the other popular tourist areas there will no doubt be a plentiful supply of decent quality condo's and houses available to rent at reasonable prices. However, in my area the choice is somewhat limited - if you want something decent with western style features and comforts, you're going to pay through the nose for it. There are some properties available but they are mainly Thai style and I don't know many westerners that would want to live that way. I'm renting somewhere in Pak Chong at the moment until my house is finished (please god, September). I needed somewhere for my furniture and motorbikes and to stay when I'm over. The upside is its 6000 per month for a 2 bed newly built townhouse but that's it as far as plus points. The downside? No aircon, no hot water (although I've put a hot shower in), no kitchen and I can hear everything next door do.

    Downstairs, the design of the place is crazy in my opinion. Imagine a good sized rectangle with windows to the front and rear. The rear would be great for a kitchen area leaving the front as a sitting area - much like modern UK dual aspect open plan townhouses. But, what there actually is, is a bathroom around half way along the rectangle which occupies half the width of the room and leaves 2 pokey living spaces at each end. I will never understand this Thai obsession with having multiple bathrooms, even in small properties - in this case its totally spoiled the house. Upstairs the layout is fairly standard with a bedroom at the front and one at the back with a landing/bathroom between - nothing much wrong with that.

    If I was over there for any length of time or indeed visited as many times as I did in 2016/17 there is no way I would have taken it on. I looked at one or two and for the money, this was the best but only for the purpose I intended. There are quite a lot of foreign teachers in the area and I guess they've taken up some of what was available to rent. There are usually one or two western style houses for rent nearer to Nakhon Ratchasima but they're a little too far away for my purposes.

    So, whilst renting may seem a better option, if you are looking for somewhere away from the mainstream tourist areas, go check out what's available before deciding renting is for you. You may be surprised at how different cultures are prepared to live. With the house I'm renting being new, I was quite shocked at the low level of fittings. I'm aware that Thai's do their cooking outside but I thought that was just in the villages and that the place I've rented would be different because its new. Not only does it not have a kitchen, you couldn't just buy some of those Thai style units and a stand alone stainless sink - there's no water or drainage anywhere downstairs except for in the stupidly positioned bathroom. I wasn't there for March/April, the hottest months but I just about get by with 2 fans aimed at my bed on full the rest of the time.

    By contrast I could have rented a house closer to Khao Yai that had been built for a westerner but that was 35,000 per month - way too much for my purpose.
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    Good post Flip.

    Yes I think it's a case of each to there own. I couldn't live out in the sticks. My partner hails from a small village near Nakhon Sawan. Her parents have a nice house, but it only takes a few days for me to become stir crazy. It's at a point where I don't often go there. My partner sees I struggle and knows I'm happier to stay in Pattaya while she pays a visit. So buying a property or having one built outside a tourist area just wouldn't appeal to me. I think the buying property over here is inbred in us Westerners. Most of us I would imagine have owned propertys back in the UK. So it's in our nature to want to buy over here. As I said in my previous post I had full intentions of buying myself. But a bad experience changed my thought process. I must admit I have started looking in other areas of Thailand. Obviously for me they will still be classed as tourist areas, but I do fancy a change for a while. I wouldn't go for more than a year because I have some good friends in Pattaya. I do like Hua Hin, I've been looking on-line and a one bed apartment is of similar cost to what I pay now. I loved Chiang Mai, but not sure I would want to live their as there is something about living by the sea Another good point of renting, I can up sticks quite easily and move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip View Post
    …………………….. Buying a condo can give you a layer of protection as providing the building has a foreign ownership quota and the one you want is part of that quota, you can legally own it. On such buildings the foreign ownership quota is 49% - i.e. if there are 100 condos in the development 49 can be owned buy a foreigner but the remaining 51 must be owned by Thai citizens or Thai companies. There are also certain regulations you must adhere to when you buy it - like the method used for transferring the funds to buy it.

    In fact as a point of interest, although in practice it makes little difference, the 49/51 ratio is based upon floor area of the building, or what they call “the aggregate unit space “, rather than the number of actual units in the project.


    Also I deal with one block in particular that predates The Condominium Act in which all the units appear to be Freehold owned by Foreigners. I’ve expressed my doubt but the residents all say it is so and every Chanote I have seen is registered in a Foreign name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy Shrimper View Post
    Good post Flip.

    Yes I think it's a case of each to there own. I couldn't live out in the sticks.
    In fact my post didn't refer to what I would term 'the sticks' although some may see it that way. My house is between Khao Yai and Pak Chong. Whilst there are no go go bars etc. its amazing just how much 'life' there is around the place once you start to look around - lots of restaurants and Thai clubs within 15 minutes. Being close to Khao Yai there are plenty of attractions/activities to take part in daytimes.

    There's a Tesco, banks, a Home Pro, Starbucks and Mcdonalds within 10 minutes of my house and I'm on the main highway to Bangkok within 7 minutes - for me the location is great. Bangkok is around 2 hours away depending on the traffic but that's set to come down when the new Bang Pa In - Nakhon Ratchasima tollway opens and in a few years there will be a high speed train that will reach Bangkok in around 45 minutes.

    Although I speak a little Thai and am improving, there comes a time when I just need to speak English and hold a conversation where I understand all of what's being said - to that end there's a Bar/Resort/Restaurant in Pak Chong that's owned by a fellow Yorkshireman and his Thai wife. Most of the customers are westerners - mainly Australians connected to the nearby Pedigree Petfoods factory.

    I'm not trying to promote the area - more to show that there is life outside Pattaya and Bangkok. Personally I wouldn't want to live much further away from Bangkok as I have a lot of friends there. I love a night out with my friends in the city but I love seeing it in my rear view mirror the next day even more. Bangkok = traffic and pollution and Pattaya? Well, its Pattaya - I've had some fantastic nights out down there but as a home? Its not for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip View Post
    In fact my post didn't refer to what I would term 'the sticks' although some may see it that way.
    Sorry Flip. In fact I was referring to my partners parents home. It is in the middle of a tiny village with no shops. The nearest 7-11 is some 18 kilometers away. My Thai is coming along but I struggle to understand 95% of what is said. That's why I said each to there own. For me, throughout my working life I had a dream to live by the sea. Not the Thames So each morning when I eat my breakfast on the balcony overlooking the sea I feel extremely lucky. Of course I understand living in a tourist spot is not for everyone. I have a good friend who lives in the outskirts of Bangkok, he loves it. Although I tell people I live in Pattaya, I actually live nearer to Jomtien. I can't remember the last time I went into Pattaya and I certainly wouldn't want to live there.

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    Yes, if I had to live down that way it would be Jomtien not Pattaya but it would be a dark day (for me) if I ever had to live in either.

    I also understand the village bit - been there, done that but not for long. A few days was long enough for me to know that Thai village life was not for me.

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