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    Back to the topic, you state that you want to get to your destination as quickly as possible so can I take it that if a direct flight was available, you would take that? I can honestly state that on the last 2 occasions that I've arrived at Abu Dhabi on my return leg, there is no way you would have got though there in 60 minutes.

    I think most of us understand that the airline is responsible for any missed flights that are their fault and that in most cases, they will be liable to compensation. However, I for one, would prefer to get to my destination on time than have compensation. There is often a very good reason that people want to be at a destination by a certain time and late flights can cause knock on effects that may well be beyond any compensation payable.

    When booking I always check the layover time and as I've passed through some airports a great many times, I form my own opinion of whether I think the timing will work or not.

    Despite what's been posted, airlines do bump people off flights. An onward flight from a hub such as Abu Dhabi will have passengers arriving from several locations who then mix together for the final leg to their destination. If one of those arrivals is late, I'm pretty sure that an airline will look at how many passengers are going to miss the onward flight when deciding whether to wait for them or not. There are a great many factors that go towards making that decision - the eventual location of aircaft and staff being one of them. Resistance to offloading luggage is not a consideration if that luggage has not arrived and been loaded.

    As you say, its personal preference but as these hub airports become inceasingly bigger, these problems are only going to get worse. I think that those of us who prefer getting to their destination on time to compensation would be well advised to form their own opinion on whether a layover time is long enough or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    The important point to be made here is that an airline would not sell a flight with too tight a connection if there was not a very good prospect of that connection being made.
    Don't think that is of any importance whatsoever.
    Essex is quite clearly stating that he is wanting to break up his flight by having a leisurely stroll around the shops and a cup of coffee, not jump off one plane straight onto the other. In order to do that, in my opinion, he will need at least 1 1/2 hours.

    Talking about Emirates minimum connection policy and compensation laws is utterly irrelevant.
    Making comments like "what is it that you are not grasping here" and "most bizarre comments I have ever seen" where totally out of order and bound to get a reaction
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    Oh dear, please don't try and drag me into this petty, silly argument.

    Sadly, we seem to have contributors in this topic who instead of sharing helpful, useful information, simply want to argue and be 'right'. People have varying opinions and experiences when they travel, so let's please concentrate on responses that might assist Essex boys (and others who may read this topic in the future) in working out his options. It's not a case of being right or wrong, if people share their own experiences, Essex boys can then make his own mind up on how long to allow between flights.

    My contributions have been to reassure Essex boys that even in the unlikely event of misconnecting he will be looked after by the airline. He has never travelled using connecting flights before so the more information he has at his disposal the better equipped he is to make the right decision for him.
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    Hi all, nice to see the topic back up and running, just wanted to say that at 58, and two knackered old knees, I'm really looking for enough time to grab a coffee and perhaps do a bit of window shopping, having never been to Dubai I would at least like to have a quick look around, even though it is in the airport. I had thought of staying over in Dubai on the return leg, maybe a couple of nights, hotels don't look to expensive.
    thank you all for your input, I found the answers very helpful.
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    Hi Essex
    I am doing that journey again in four weeks time. The last time I did it I found it was great to be able to stretch my legs. But I also found as it was a short connection time that there were plenty of staff to point me in the right direction.

    Good luck I hope you have a fab journey.

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    If you book London to Bangkok with an airline it's up to them to get you all the way. If the inbound aircraft is late this doesn't change matters and you will be popped on the next flight or have a very nice stay and some spending money. It's really not the same as booking two independent tickets with different airlines. If, as many of us do, you book say TG from LHR to BKK and then BKK to say HKT with Bangkok Air and the TG flight gets in late, yes you will miss the PG flight and have to book another. It's very different, don't worry it will be fine as long as the route is booked from start to final destination.

    Is your concern that will have to make a domestic flight when you arrive and are concerned about missing that?

    The simple answer is if you want to be completely sure and not run the risk of missing a connection then fly direct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James HKT View Post
    Is your concern that will have to make a domestic flight when you arrive and are concerned about missing that?
    The simple answer is if you want to be completely sure and not run the risk of missing a connection then fly direct.
    I think that should read.

    "If you want to have a better chance of not missing a domestic flight then book direct"

    Things can go pear shaped even on direct flights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natty View Post
    I think that should read.

    "If you want to have a better chance of not missing a domestic flight then book direct"

    Things can go pear shaped even on direct flights.
    If anyone's interested I have a client who operates a small private transport service. He can charter you a jet and then you can go where you want, stay as long as you want and you will never miss a flight. If you're late you will just have to wait for the next slot, but you can sit on board and have some great nosh and refreshments. If you don't want something big I'd suggest a Gulfstream as the Lears are a bit on the cosy side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James HKT View Post
    If anyone's interested I have a client who operates a small private transport service. He can charter you a jet and then you can go where you want, stay as long as you want and you will never miss a flight. If you're late you will just have to wait for the next slot, but you can sit on board and have some great nosh and refreshments. If you don't want something big I'd suggest a Gulfstream as the Lears are a bit on the cosy side.
    I work with a chap who does the same if anyone needs to shop around
    Unfortunately I will have to stick with the cheapest and try and reduce the risks myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James HKT View Post
    If you don't want something big I'd suggest a Gulfstream as the Lears are a bit on the cosy side.
    My budget would never stretch that far, a Red Bull Flugtag is all I could afford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natty View Post
    I work with a chap who does the same if anyone needs to shop around
    Unfortunately I will have to stick with the cheapest and try and reduce the risks myself.
    With so many guys doing all this flying it makes more sense to buy rather than rent right. I'm sure you can pick up a nice shiny new Gulfstream G650 for around $60/65M. I know a couple of air craft dealers as well. I don't think I'm allowed to post their company details.

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    I missed connections on a few occassions. All on Biz flights.
    Most missed connections were using T5 from MAN when i used to use BA or on the return leg.
    In fact on one occassion i ran with a few other Brits all coming from Seattle and wanting to make the connection up to MAN but were refused as our boarding passes were not scanned in time at the next check at the transfer gate and we were unceremoniously dumped back out of airside into the check in hall at T5. We could have easily made the gate even though our bags probably would not make it.
    At Schipol they have a short connection Passport control for schengen to non schengen connections so you just get straight through. T5 is useless so i ditched BA for the majority of flights.

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    [QUOTEAt Schipol they have a short connection Passport control for schengen to non schengen connections so you just get straight through. T5 is useless so i ditched BA for the majority of flights.][/QUOTE]

    does not always work mind ,I have been caught out a few times there
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    i have said before in a post we was on a max 2 hour connection at abu dabi ,and the plane didnt take off at manchester for some reason for about 90 mins ,we was assuerd that the connection would not leave abu dabi till we had boarded but had to make our way straight to the gate was there call with it being the last plane to bkk that night ,90 min delay or trying to move around a hundred people and cater for them so i would say they know whats going on its there job a £10 meal voucher for 200 or a a £200 pound overnight stay for a 100 cost does come into it and inconveinence if it would have been anything over that 90 min delay im sure we would have had the hotel and next day flight..and to be honest the pilot made that time up and we wasnt far away from our landing time at bkk 10-15 mins

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