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Wolfy
22nd Oct 2011, 11:33
Phetchy's post trying to convince Mrs Phetchy he should put more Archa into stock due to the water shortage got me thinking it's only 6.5 weeks till my next Ice Cold Archa !!


In order of Preference my Thai Bottled Beer League Table is...

1...Archa (why is this one so much cheaper than the others when it is actually strounger than some of the them ??)
2...Chang
3...Leo (all the locals in Mai's Dark Side Soi in Pattaya and all the locals in her North West Village prefer this one)
4...Cheers
5...Singha
6...Heineken
7...Tiger

And here's a question, what's the beer in this picture, far right ?

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When i created this attachment the picture i copied was much smaller and "unreadable". I can now see what the beer is. Sorry.

OK then, anyone know or recommend any more regional beers ?

Nothing to do with beer but the c-sip drinkers up in Mai's Village all swear that the Utteradit brew is much better than the Nakhon Sawan version.

dan&ploy
22nd Oct 2011, 12:06
Last night I was offered a Chang Export. New they said in the restaurant and the nice Chang girl that offered it would have been offended if I had refused.

Should also mention it worth trying to find them on draft although so far, locally, only have beer Leo sot.

Difficult to find but my favourite is Lao Dark.

Wolfy
22nd Oct 2011, 12:11
Your taste buds change as you get older Dan. Most elderly gentlemen prefer dark beers.

Tony & Apple
22nd Oct 2011, 12:13
They used to stock Phuket Beer at my local Thai restaurant, in my opinion it was a very nice beer much better than the other Thai brands.

My fav is Mandalay Beer, very refreshing but i think only available inside Burma for now.

storm1fishing
22nd Oct 2011, 12:27
Have any of you beer connoisseur's , happened upon a cider in thailand yet ?.

Lucky
22nd Oct 2011, 12:33
Only imported Woodpecker & Strongbow.

Linne
22nd Oct 2011, 12:34
Difficult to find but my favourite is Lao Dark.

IMHO this stuff resembles the famous brown stuff from Newcastle. (In my youth this was the fashionable drink amongst those of us in the Uni bar).

Its nice to find something that does not resemble liquid waste product.


never tried it or seen it but I found this whilst looking something else

http://www.tropicalcider.com/

Allan
22nd Oct 2011, 13:01
Favourite beer -Chang Chang Chang - did I mention Chang? But if they haven't got any Chang, Leo or Tiger - at a push Singha. So when are you going to be in Pattaya Wolfy? I'm hoping to meet Phetchy for a few beers sometime in December - if you're about we could have a beer fest somewhere. Will have to be near a market so the other halves can go shopping though!

Phetchy
22nd Oct 2011, 13:04
This is the gear to try - 6.9% but tastes smooth and goes down really easily. A few supermarkets sell it here in pattaya but I'm yet to see it for sale in a bar. Presumably due to the fact that there are enough idiot falang holiday makers who can't handle the usual stuff.

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lamai
22nd Oct 2011, 14:30
if you're about we could have a beer fest somewhere. Will have to be near a market so the other halves can go shopping though!

So she can keep an eye on you ;)

storm1fishing
22nd Oct 2011, 14:35
Only imported Woodpecker & Strongbow.

where did you find see this , in a shop for sale or in a hotel bar ?

ddwjg
22nd Oct 2011, 14:50
Cider is available everywhere I go in Bang Saray or Ban Chang, and presumably in Pattaya and surrounding areas. Why are you asking Colin? Can't you find any?

Dave.

colin244
22nd Oct 2011, 15:28
Same as my avatar Wolfy :)

colin 244

Wolfy
22nd Oct 2011, 17:38
So when are you going to be in Pattaya Wolfy? I'm hoping to meet Phetchy for a few beers sometime in December

Well i'll be there sometime in December but not sure of dates yet. Arrive in BKK 7th.

the_link
22nd Oct 2011, 18:20
Agree with colin, can't go wrong with a Singha.

The lower end of the scale was in Laos and about the only beer that seemed available, Beer Lao.

Gary & Nok
22nd Oct 2011, 19:57
Have any of you beer connoisseur's , happened upon a cider in thailand yet ?.


Only imported Woodpecker & Strongbow.What ever you do don't ask for cider. I took my mate out there a few years ago and he only drinks cider. We kept going to my local bar (Best Friend) and asked for cider in there and also every other bar we went in always to be told no have.

On the last day one of the girls in Best Friend asked him if he wanted to try a new beer they had.... Strongbow :cry:

the_link
22nd Oct 2011, 21:22
I chanced upon Stowford Press cider on draught at a bar in Patong Beach a few years ago and very disappointed as it was completely flat and drank about a third of it before giving up.

Allan
23rd Oct 2011, 11:41
Well i'll be there sometime in December but not sure of dates yet. Arrive in BKK 7th.

Keep in touch with Phetchy and we'll meet up for a bevvy or two

Wolfy
23rd Oct 2011, 11:59
No problem. Cheers Al.

storm1fishing
23rd Oct 2011, 13:26
Cider is available everywhere I go in Bang Saray or Ban Chang, and presumably in Pattaya and surrounding areas. Why are you asking Colin? Can't you find any?

Dave.

Hi Dave , I never go out to bars , unless I go meet up with other expats , so far once in the 3 months that I have lived here:shake:. When I do go out it would be to a restaurant for supper. When I do drink it is normally at home or at a friends , so whatever I'm going to drink will be bought at tesco's. I have'nt seen any ciders there yet , but then again I cant say that I have looked very hard.
I'll have a harder look next time I do my shopping or on the 29th if that meet up still goes ahead.

cheers

Disinfatuation
23rd Oct 2011, 19:14
My wife loves Singha, I love Tiger (Malaysian)

Out of the Thai ones I must agree with my wife but also Archa

the_link
23rd Oct 2011, 19:19
Ah, Dis. Is your wife here in the UK yet?

Wolfy
23rd Oct 2011, 19:28
Any chance of any wedding pics of you and Lollipop Dis ?

Well done mate, after all your early troubles its good to see you drinking beer again !

the_link
23rd Oct 2011, 19:49
God help you if there isn't any Aladdin slippers on display, Dis. Basically, don't show your face. ;)

http://www.ramona5.com/Images/CostumesandShoes/303black.jpg

Disinfatuation
23rd Oct 2011, 20:05
Any chance of any wedding pics of you and Lollipop Dis ?

Well done mate, after all your early troubles its good to see you drinking beer again !

I would love to show you a picture but I think only premium members can upload photo?


Ah, Dis. Is your wife here in the UK yet?

yes her and the baby arrived on the 21st. And they've already turned half of the kitchen into Thai food.

the_link
23rd Oct 2011, 20:11
It just so happens that you can post your photo/s to photobucket or any number of photo sharing websites and link here, Dis. ;)

maokaang
23rd Oct 2011, 20:16
I love Tiger (Malaysian)Tiger originates from Singapore, not Malaysia.

caller
23rd Oct 2011, 20:28
Tiger originates from Singapore, not Malaysia.

Yes indeedy and a great beer it is as well, but not when brewed under licence in China, LOS and I now think the UK?

Wolfy
24th Oct 2011, 08:34
Yes, Tiger over here ridiculously brewed in Edinburgh - yuk !!

-Keith-
24th Oct 2011, 10:21
Yeh but to even things up they brew San Miguel in Singapore !!!!!!

I'm sure it's just the same old crapola in different tins/bottles.

brian99
24th Oct 2011, 10:34
Red horse is the best but it's not a Thai beer but brewed by san miguel. the only Thai one worth drinking is cheers extra or maybe singha, none of it is real beer of course, but better than nothing.

craig76
24th Oct 2011, 10:39
I think Archa beer is quite nice but my favourite beer although non Thai but sold in certain places in Thailand has to be Beer Lao.It is very refreshing to drink and i think it knocks spots off most of the Thai beers to be honest!!

brian99
24th Oct 2011, 10:58
Can get beer lao in villa and tops shops, lao dark is 65 bhat for a small one, excellent stuff.

Gary & Nok
24th Oct 2011, 20:22
I get/drink Beer Laos in the village and its about 30 baht a bottle (big size) or 500 baht a case of 12, this includes a 200 baht deposit on the crate. Good stuff :D

Wolfy
24th Oct 2011, 20:52
What was that even cheaper Laos beer we bought, the crate we palmed off onto your Brother in Law ?

It was awful stuff if you remember.

Gary & Nok
24th Oct 2011, 21:28
Was trying to think of that but can't remember the name, I think it was so terrible that I have mentally blocked the experience from my mind.

Will ask Nok when she gets in.

Phetchy
24th Oct 2011, 21:32
I think it was so terrible that I have mentally blocked the experience from my mind.
Get them to flog it in the bar at Old Trafford. Keano's prawn sarnies and a pint of that stuff should be enough to erase the memory of any 6-1 defeat.

Gary & Nok
24th Oct 2011, 21:36
I think it was this one
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colin244
24th Oct 2011, 23:29
Never come across that one Gary probably exclusive to Laos.

colin 244

dan&ploy
24th Oct 2011, 23:36
Savannakhet is a town in southern Laos, near the Mekong river which is maybe where it gets its name. Unfortunately I can't tell you how high the river is there.

Dave and Tia
25th Oct 2011, 03:36
Also has a casino,which seems to have own beer brand, unless it is the Savan Beer in a different can
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Wolfy
25th Oct 2011, 07:50
Gary, that was it, tasted like the overflowing Mekong direct to the bottle.
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Wolfy's Laos Awful Beer Award goes to Beer Savan.

Useless Fact : In September 2010 the Savan Brewery starting exporting this Beer to Israel (another good reason not to visit there any time soon) thus becoming the second country to take it after Thailand.

Wolfy's LOS Awful Beer Award goes to Chang Light.

dan&ploy
25th Oct 2011, 08:46
Totally agree with Chang Light. Yet normal Chang is my second favourite and the Chang Export I tried the other day was pretty decent too.

Phetchy
25th Oct 2011, 09:27
Wolfy's Laos Awful Beer Award goes to Beer Savan.



And here's a list of the ingredients (http://www.savan.co.uk/pharlist.html) used in it's production ............ well worthy of Wolfy's award.

storm1fishing
25th Oct 2011, 15:51
On my quest to find some water in tesco's today (all the shelves were empty) , I happened upon a few tins of Blackthorn cider , woohoo , 115 baht a tin , not so woohoo , but at least now when I really feel like a cider I'll know where to go. They had two other ciders there as well but never heard of them , but will give them a try sometime.They are the same price as well so might as well.
As for the water , none to be found , so my coffee will be made with fanta orange should the floods come my way.
I do still have water at home and the 1 baht/litre machine is still working in my soi so all is not lost yet.

Wolfy
25th Oct 2011, 15:59
:lol: Coffee made with Fanta Orange :lol: Lets hope it doesn't come to that Colin !!

storm1fishing
25th Oct 2011, 16:52
Thats all I could find Steve , all the shelves were empty , so bought a crate of fanta.
As a matter of interest all the mama noodle shelves were empty as well , so I stocked up on spaggetti , in hindsight , that is going to be boiled in fanta as well.
I could have a whole new menu for kids going here.
I think i'll look for some duck tomorrow , as that goes quite well with orange , mind you it will have to be dried duck , as the electricity will most likely be off.( reminder to self , torch batteries )

colin244
25th Oct 2011, 22:58
Savannakhet is a town in southern Laos, near the Mekong river which is maybe where it gets its name

If its that bad they probably use the river water to make it :D

colin 244

Gary & Nok
25th Oct 2011, 23:49
Never come across that one Gary probably exclusive to Laos.You are missing nothing, it's gnats pee in a bottle but my BIL loved it and it kept him away from the Beer Lao (for a while).

GTG
26th Oct 2011, 00:47
My 'beer' of choice in Thailand was always Kloster. Just seemed a lot cleaner than the others somehow, less obvious chemicals and less ferocious hangovers. I don't even know if it's still available - haven't seen too many votes on here!

Quiz nights at the Londoner, however, presented an opportunity to get stuck into their in-house brewed Londoners Pride Bitter, especially as it was 2 for 1 during the quiz!

ddwjg
26th Oct 2011, 08:18
Gordie. I agree. Kloster was always my beer of choice, but when I first came to Thailand there was only one other alternative in the bars i.e. Singha. Kloster disappeared off the sheves quite a few years ago. Can't remember exactly what year. I think 5 to 7 years ago.

Dave.

Wolfy
26th Oct 2011, 08:23
Kloster's "Happiness you can drink"

Kloster, despite performing very creditably in taste tests, suffered from poor local distribution and other parts of the marketing mix, despite its high levels of brand recognition and recall.

this from ...

http://www.asiamarketresearch.com/news/000260.htm

ddwjg
26th Oct 2011, 09:10
It sounds like the brewery was administered with the same expertise as the current floods.

What a shambles.

Dave.

Phetchy
26th Oct 2011, 15:38
Come to think of it, my preference can be narrowed down to who's paying for it.

colin244
27th Oct 2011, 00:54
Very good Phil, and applies to my expat mate from LOS currently over here :rolleyes:

colin 244

fish
1st Nov 2011, 19:55
Apparently there is a new beer out Chang Export which is a dark malt beer more like an English Ale. The Chang Ladies have been out promoting it. Anyone tried it? Should be right up Wolfy's street.

dan&ploy
1st Nov 2011, 22:28
Yes I have tried it but I wouldn't describe is as dark. Worth a second glass though although I don't think it betters Archa.

Phetchy
1st Nov 2011, 22:42
Up early/late for the football Dan?

dan&ploy
1st Nov 2011, 23:21
Is there football on then? Some over-paid ponces playing some retarded ponces somewhere in some god forsaken backwater against a backdrop of obscene and racist chanting from people who would be drowned at birth in a just society.

No, just working.

brian99
20th Nov 2011, 08:34
My 'beer' of choice in Thailand was always Kloster. Just seemed a lot cleaner than the others somehow, less obvious chemicals and less ferocious hangovers. I don't even know if it's still available - haven't seen too many votes on here!
!

I used to like that, forgotten about it until I read this. You might like chang export GTG which has just hit the shops. It boasts of being made from 100% malt, which makes you wonder what they make the other muck from. Export is really pretty good and much better than the original. Bang for buck is still red horse though, if you can find it.

Lee
22nd Nov 2011, 17:09
B&M are curently selling Beer Lao for £1.29

deland
22nd Nov 2011, 17:59
B&M are curently selling Beer Lao for £1.29B&M? Lee, who are they?

Gary & Nok
22nd Nov 2011, 18:23
B&M Stores (http://www.bmstores.co.uk/)

caller
22nd Nov 2011, 21:50
B&M are curently selling Beer Lao for £1.29

1.49 in the store nearest me for a 640ml bottle as I discovered yesterday! Gotta be cheaper than in LOS!

colin244
22nd Nov 2011, 23:51
Must admit I had never heard of them but see there is one near me in Bas Vegas (Basildon for non Essex members)

colin 244

the_link
23rd Nov 2011, 00:21
And that other great Essex metropolis, col, Nam. Dagen-nam.

Wolfy
23rd Nov 2011, 08:36
I will be having a pint of draught Singha at Stamford Bridge on Saturday.

Phetchy
23rd Nov 2011, 08:54
I will be having a pint of draught Singha at Stamford Bridge on Saturday.

That'll cost you a few bob Wolfy. You could do with a decent bet coming up trumps to pay for it - I know just the bloke (http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20111121/local/maltese-punter-wins.394901).

colin244
24th Nov 2011, 00:47
Wolfy,

Asda have reintroduced 3 for £5.00 (big bottles) instead of £2.04 each in my local store tonight :)

colin 244 (having one now)

Pete & Som
24th Mar 2012, 01:22
chang beer for me i get it in are local tesco's

Gary & Nok
11th Sep 2012, 18:36
You have heard of the Yard of Ale...

...let me introduce you to the Metre of Beer

Tiger Beer only £1.26/Metre :confused:

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Wolfy
11th Sep 2012, 19:37
Thats a good 'un Gaz, where did you see that ?

Gary & Nok
11th Sep 2012, 22:55
Nicked it from a Which? report :rolleyes:

caller
11th Sep 2012, 23:18
I was in Tescos on Sunday and noticed they have reduced Singha to £2 a bottle. :eek:

Haven't seen Beer Lao in B&M for a while, but good value prices for the Greene King brewery range of beers, but better still, they have six stubbies of VB for about £3.50, which is amazing value, Tescos charge twice the price!

colin244
12th Sep 2012, 00:05
Singha back to normal price £2.25 for a big bottle in my local ASDA :( although they also now do a four pack of small bottles in a cardboard carry out pack.

colin 244

caller
12th Sep 2012, 12:02
Colin, my :eek: was because although they did charge higher, I still think £2 a bottle way too much! but its the same for all these so called premium lagers now, even Tiger brewed in the UK! Does anyone actually buy them? The other thing I noticed was bottled ale had had by and large been reduced to £1.50 a bottle, wonder why?

Phetchy
12th Sep 2012, 14:56
I have to say that I'm not quite sure why a lot of you chaps in the UK seem to have a need for a 'fix' of Thai beer? Is it the UK version of the second stage of 'The 5 Ages of Farang (http://thailand-uk.com/forums/showthread.php?15220-The-5-Ages-of-Farang-From-Newbie-to-Old-Hand&p=187905&viewfull=1#post187905)'?


Followed by a ''HONEYMOON'' period where everything Thai related is viewed through rose colored glasses and the person loves everything Thai related.

Each to their own of course, but I'd guess that the majority of consumers of Thai beer in the UK (excluding Thais), are those who have strong connections with the country (either frequent visits or a Thai partner). Is it a 'comfort' thing - a way of keeping in contact with the promised land, or is the beer better?

If you were married to a lassie from Scotland or took your annual holiday there, would you be seeking out the best supermarket deals on Tennents or McEwans?

Personally every time I go back to the UK, I don't touch a pint of lager. It's flat, warm beer or cider for me. When I return to Thailand, it's the local lager because it's a lot cheaper and is served as cold as they can get it. 'Proper' beer is not really an option as it's not widely available, doesn't taste the same when chilled and is too expensive. If I lived in the UK, and I wanted a decent premium lager for a change, I think I'd be looking at Belgian or German beer before opting for Singha.

As I said, it's all down to personal choice. :shrug:

Wolfy
12th Sep 2012, 16:19
I agree with your comments Phil. I don't drink lager here at all when out and about. I do sometimes partake in a lager at home and that would usually be a Heineken, brewed in Holland and the only Heineken now available in the UK not like it used to be when brewed here under licence and nothing like the real stuff.

I also like a Becks, only ever brewed in Germany adhering to the Rheinheitsgebot.

The French stuff Kronenbourg 1664 and the Belgian Stella Artois are both brewed here and are therefore crap. Even the indian lagers Cobra and Kingfisher are brewed here now, and as Caller says Tiger's brewed in Edinburgh with all the other crap Scotch beers.

charlie1968
12th Sep 2012, 16:35
never drink thai beer in the uk only when in thai

charlie

colin244
12th Sep 2012, 23:26
Colin, my :eek: was because although they did charge higher, I still think £2 a bottle way too much! but its the same for all these so called premium lagers now, even Tiger brewed in the UK! Does anyone actually buy them?

Well I buy Singha but as the shelf is usually nearly empty so must others but there is a large amount of Thais and UK expats visiting the UK plus current LOS frequent fliers in this small town so maybe that explains it. Additionally if it did not sell the likes of ASDA & Tesco would not stock it :nod:

colin 244

PS :- I'm rather partial to Stella as well ;)

caller
12th Sep 2012, 23:31
I enjoyed the Beer Lao, as much for the fact so many expats in LOS praise it and for the novelty value, but it did wear off. I am firmly in the real ale camp, but like a change from time to time, which is now usually cider, or the VB from Oz, or even better, Coopers Sparkling Ale, which Waitrose sell, its the best aussie ale and not a lager.

When in LOS, I prefer Leo out and Archa in!

colin244
13th Sep 2012, 00:42
Have you tried Stella Cidre caller? rather moorish and expensive in pubs but better prices in the supermarkets :nod:

colin 244

Wolfy
13th Sep 2012, 09:23
Have you got a Chalice then Col ?

Their new ad...

It's not a Glass, it's a Chalice (Made of Glass).

caller
13th Sep 2012, 21:45
Have you tried Stella Cidre caller? rather moorish and expensive in pubs but better prices in the supermarkets :nod:

colin 244

I have Colin and I like it! Off to Cornwall next week and on the back will stop off at the Cornish cyder farm to pick up some goodies, including their scrumpy apple sauce. - yummy! I was gonna say local pubs sell their cider, but according to their website, more than a 1000 now do!

http://www.thecornishcyderfarm.co.uk/index.html

colin244
14th Sep 2012, 00:15
Have you got a Chalice then Col ?



Yep and some Stella Artois ones as well (offer on the packs not nicked as my local will only give to regulars and seem to monitor who has one in use :lol:)

colin 244

colin244
14th Sep 2012, 01:08
Staying on the beer theme ASDA have reintroduced 3x big bottle Singha for a fiver :thumb:

colin 244

Scally
15th Sep 2012, 21:58
When at home I like proper ale, but when in LOS i do like an ice cold leo or singha with ice, prefer the leo (cheaper too) never seen it in the uk though could do with a few tonight as the mrs is out with work but cant as on taxi duties

PatrickR
29th Sep 2012, 23:37
Tescos currently have 640ml bottles of Chang reduced to £1.50 from £2.25:

http://www.tesco.com/groceries/Product/Details/?id=268270009

ddave
30th Sep 2012, 12:14
Thanks Patrickr :) been looking for some Chang, even Googled places that stock it without much help, I liked the Singha the most and been buying 3 bottles for a fiver from Morrison's but on my last trip got on the Chang and missed it, off to tesco shortly :)

Scally
3rd Oct 2012, 21:36
really gagging for a night on the ales, been a few weeks and for one reason or another it just has happened. Anyway have negotiated with the wife for some saturday afternoon beers in exchange for some lunch and a coupel of hours shopping.

brian99
4th Oct 2012, 13:32
New beer out here Joy beer from Vietnam, label in English with bad design. They make a donation to some HIV charity, but do not say how much. It's as crap as anything else. I am a firm lover of lao deang these days, that funny looking stuff in jars with red tops on the road side, cheap and strong.

Scally
6th Oct 2012, 21:13
So, early start today, we had a full (overpriced) english breakkie in an trendy bar/restaurant in manchester city centre, followed by a couple of hours shopping which wasnt too painful, then home, dumped the car and a short walk to the pub, whetherspoons is closest, three pints of ale (£1.99 per pint all different, one I cant remember, brightside and white witch) the wife had two small glases of rose, followed by a plate of chicken wings, (fried like in LOS) and some fried prawns. Then moved on to another boozer for a couple of pints of doombar, backhome by 7. After the wife slept off her two glasses of vino, I am now watching tele while she is cooking rib soup....

Grahame
6th Oct 2012, 21:23
Beer Chang (Classic) for me when in LOS, an dif I feel like a treat Ice Cold Guinness! Back home I tend to drink Wine.

MattM85
6th Oct 2012, 22:07
Chang all day long! Literally! :p But Strongbow in the UK! :)

colin244
7th Oct 2012, 01:59
Stella (at home UK ;)) Fosters in the UK pub but Singha all the way in LOS :cool: (whoops drinking a Singha in the UK right now)

colin 244

jimmbo60
7th Oct 2012, 08:47
Beer Chang (Classic) for me when in LOS, an dif I feel like a treat Ice Cold Guinness! Back home I tend to drink Wine.
You did drink the pub dry of Guinness 1 night:lol:
when in Jomtien

Mass
7th Oct 2012, 15:30
I was a Heineken man but tried Chang classic on my 2nd trip to Thailand and now that's all I drink...my Thai gf actually pushed me down this route as to Chang being cheaper thanheineken..I wonder if she would have done this knowing Chang classic to be the stonger.:banana:

Tony & Apple
7th Oct 2012, 23:47
In the UK it has to be Staropramen on draft at whetherspoons and in Thailand either bottles of Singha or any Thai beer on draft.

Favourite beer overall has to be Mandalay Beer, which hopefully soon will be avilable outside of Burma.

:thumb:

Tobias
8th Oct 2012, 12:54
I'm a draft beer fan too, in Thailand any beer on tap, in the USA Sam Adams (Boston Lager), in the UK not Stella, Carling, Fosters, XXXX or Carlsberg.

Grahame
8th Oct 2012, 13:05
Ha ha! They soon stocked up again Jimmbo.... I went later that same day and they were up and running again!!