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Allan
21st Apr 2012, 16:41
Nuy made enquiries today at Barking and Dagenham College about joining a class for ESOL qualification but when I asked the "tutor / adminstrator" whether the qualification would be recognised as part of the settlement process that she has to go through at the end of her 2 year settlement visa, they seemed rather vague and were unable to give me an answer.

Is it any ESOL qualification that is recognised or does it have to be an accredited school? Any views?

ta - Allan

Frogster1953
21st Apr 2012, 17:13
Just an easy goggle search came up with this, everything you need to know is here UKBA ESOL Requirements (http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/applying/applicationtypes/naturalisation/kol/esol-with-citizenship/)

Isn't the internet wonderful

Kev

melnathan
21st Apr 2012, 18:28
Kevin you have done it again firstly with your settlement visa advice and now for me anyway an important link for ESOL which we are now contemplating Thanks

Melnathan

Frogster1953
21st Apr 2012, 18:38
You are very welcome.... I aim to please (apart from in the middle of the night, when I realise a little too late - she has put the seat down :eek: again).

Kev

colin244
21st Apr 2012, 19:01
:lol: Easily done Kev ;)

colin 244

Frogster1953
21st Apr 2012, 20:15
Yes it is Col .... :o maybe it's an age thing, but I seem to have to go mid-night now, and don't want to open my eyes as it takes ages to get back to sleep.

But there again, I now have someone to "rock me gently" ;)

Kev

Millsey
22nd Apr 2012, 16:53
Nuy made enquiries today at Barking and Dagenham College about joining a class for ESOL qualification but when I asked the "tutor / adminstrator" whether the qualification would be recognised as part of the settlement process that she has to go through at the end of her 2 year settlement visa, they seemed rather vague and were unable to give me an answer.

Is it any ESOL qualification that is recognised or does it have to be an accredited school? Any views?

ta - Allan

Hi Allan

I'd be interested to know how you get on with finding a relevant ESOL course. The wife and I will be returning to the UK next week and will be living in Romford, so at some stage in the not so distant future we'll be looking for an ESOL course in the local area.

If you have any luck, I'd be grateful if you can update this thread or drop me a PM with any information.

Millsey.

Allan
22nd Apr 2012, 17:27
Hiya Millsey, let me know when you are back in the area and we can maybe meet up for a beer. Be good for our respective spouses perhaps to have a natter.

I'd seen the UKBA page that Frogster had mentioned and it was more or less confirming my initial thoughts - ie that the course has to be ESOL with citizenship materials. I just felt it was strange that an administrator or tutor (whatever) of the ESOL course that I'd spoken with at the college didn't know anything about its validity. I think it's a question of keep looking but there is an assessment afternoon at the same college in a couple of weeks so I may try and find someone who knows something about what they are teaching.

All the best - Allan

andyn1066
22nd Apr 2012, 20:47
Allen,
Any local college that does ESOL, as long as its OFSTED registered. At my local college (Hastings) they only let students complete the 10 week course if the students language skills are good, They normally have to complete level 2 ESOL before they enroll them on the course, just to prove that students english langauage skills are up to a certain level. Or there always the LIFE in THE UK route.

Frogster1953
22nd Apr 2012, 22:15
To clarify:-

It has been mentioned many times before, but, if you are going to follow the ESOL route then the most important things to make sure of, are that:-


the course is taken at an accredited college (that has been recognised from an approved awarding body).
it includes citizenship material derived from the document 'Citizenship Materials for ESOL Learners' (ISBN: 1-84478-5424).
it is an ESOL qualification in speaking and listening at Entry 1, Entry 2 or Entry 3 level, approved by the Office of the Qualifications and Examinations Regulation (Ofqual) or one National Qualification Unit in ESOL at Access 2, Access 3 or Intermediate 1 level, that is approved by the Scottish Qualifications Authority.
you have to be assessed at the start to obtain your entry level, you must attend, and you have to demonstrate that you have made relevant progress (i.e. from 1 level to the next)


ESOL courses with citzenship content, as above, are available throughout the UK - the Directgov website (http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/EducationAndLearning/AdultLearning/ImprovingYourSkills/DG_10037499) can help you find a course at the right level in your area.

The cost and even the time required to complete the course varies from place to place, for example there is a course (provided by Cohesion in Manchester – Click Here (http://www.cohesionlegal.co.uk/lang.php?main_courses=101)) that fits all the above criteria that runs 10:00 to 14:30 over just five days in one week, and costs £275.00, there are other courses advertised by many colleges that say they take up to 6 months….

The choice is huge, and yours to make, but ensure whatever one you decide on meets the above criteria.

Kev

melnathan
22nd Apr 2012, 22:35
Allan I dont think East Ham is too far from you. look at Univeral Training Barking Road East Ham 0208 821 9471. We have one in Watford and am going to enroll Jan shortly. Appears to have the right letters etc.

Melnathan

Millsey
26th Apr 2012, 18:34
Nuy made enquiries today at Barking and Dagenham College about joining a class for ESOL qualification but when I asked the "tutor / adminstrator" whether the qualification would be recognised as part of the settlement process that she has to go through at the end of her 2 year settlement visa, they seemed rather vague and were unable to give me an answer.

Is it any ESOL qualification that is recognised or does it have to be an accredited school? Any views?

ta - Allan
Allan

have a look at these links to a couple of ESOL related websites for our neck of the woods.

Today I sent an email to the Adult College Of Barking and Dagenham which is in the first link below, I'll let you know if they come back to me with any useful information about a suitable ESOL with citizenship course.
http://www.lbbd.gov.uk/adultcollege/course-search.aspx (http://www.lbbd.gov.uk/adultcollege/course-search.aspx)
http://www.esolcourses.com/esol-courses/london.html (http://www.esolcourses.com/esol-courses/london.html)

I've also emailed a few other colleges in the area, just waiting to for a response now.

Millsey

Millsey
27th Apr 2012, 16:42
Allan

further to yesterday's post, I've just had an email back from Adult College Of Barking and Dagenham, with these remarks:

Thank you for your enquiry.

As long as your wife and you bring along your passports and can prove that you have been resident in the UK since 2008, your wife may attend a course here. She will have to undergo an assessment firstly, this cost £20.00 and will start at 9.00 a.m. and finish around 3.00 p.m. The course itself is 2.5 hours twice a week and an exam at the end of the year.

If you could come in with your proof, we can enrol your wife onto an assessment.

Have a look at the link below which talks a little bit about the content of the course and what you need to do to arrange an assessment of your wife's language skills.
I've sent back another email asking for confirmation that the college, course, content and awarding body meet the UKBA requirements. I'll pop into the college as well. some time next week, once we get back to the UK.

http://www.barking-dagenham.gov.uk/sites/adultcollege/Courses/Pages/ESOL.aspx