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    Good stuff Mick and congrats to all of you

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    Congratulations to you and extended family :-) Must be a great feeling and a confidence boost handling it yourselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by KhunIanB-UK View Post
    Must be a great feeling and a confidence boost handling it yourselves
    Initially My plan was to engage with a legal eagle, however when Tobais said you don't need one, I thought well I will try first and if I get issues then i will engage a legal representative ( They would have known about the 2005 rule and probably led me on.)

    Anyway all done now, nothing to worry about.

    I also think because I do a lot of public speaking in my job, and last year inperticular I used to brief high ranking officials and represenstaives this helped.

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    In straightforward applications such as this, having the support of Social Services, being married to the children's mother, the children actually already residing with (and being cared for by) you, there was no need for professional assistance.

    The fat lady is warming up for her performance, a job well done, Mick.

    As a help for others who might go down this path in the future, any chance you can put a post together of the procedure you followed and the cost of doing all this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    As a help for others who might go down this path in the future, any chance you can put a post together of the procedure you followed and the cost of doing all this?
    Consider this done, I will do it during the silent hours tonight.

    If our path's ever cross i think i owe you a few beers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9851colle View Post
    Consider this done ...
    Excellent

    Quote Originally Posted by 9851colle View Post
    ... If our path's ever cross i think i owe you a few beers!
    I'm sure they will, and I never say no to a free beer
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    Step Parent Adoption Journey 2011,12,13.

    I will write this from my prospective, some of the journey will not apply to all applicants but the priciples will be same. If the mods want to place it on antoher thread then i will leave this to their decision.

    Once my family had ILR late Oct 2011 we decided that it was in our best interests to gather Regarding the Adoption process.

    I engaged with the Army welfare Service (AWS), This would be the Local Authoriy for Civilians.

    Within a few days we engaged in a meeting at a office with the AWS and discussed the options avalible other than Adoption. (The other routes) which are:

    The legal alternatives to adoption:

    Parental Responsibility Agreement/Order – this enables you to share parental responsibility with the child’s parents, provided you are married to, or in a civil partnership with, the child’s birth parent.

    Residence Order – this will also enable you to share parental responsibility with the child’s birth parents with some exceptions. Additionally, all those with parental responsibility must agree before the child’s surname can be changed or for the child to live abroad, unless a court has given permission.

    Information regarding adoption can be found using the following link:

    https://www.gov.uk/child-adoption/adopting-a-stepchild

    We decided the best route for us was adoption.

    I then returned to Afghanistan, whilst there the social worker conducted 2 interviews the family.

    They sent me a letter via the snail mail to Afghanistan just confiming Adoption was the Route we intended on taking.

    I then used the SAT PHONE as this was faster than the snail mail to confirm Adoption was the route.

    Returned to Germany in Mar 12 and they informed me to write a letter of intent to my local authority in order to grant permission for the AWS to proceed with the interviews.

    I then wrote the letter to my local Authority: If the mods would like me to post this letter i will but will have to sanitise it first. ( All it is though is explaining your intentions)

    After a stall of 2 months I phoned my local authority in order to establish why they had not responed to the letter to which i sent.

    They receptionist on the Phone stated that she didn't now anygthing and would get the manger to call me back and that step parent adoption was one of thier lowest prioritys.
    (Just be aware each local authority is different and may become protracted)

    The manger called back informed me that she had found the letter and would engage with the AWS.

    2 weeks later this was done permission was granted to AWS to proceed.

    A minimum of 7 interviews were conducted by the AWS social worker which included the following:

    Back Ground on myself and my wife,
    History on myself and my wife,
    Relationship of myself to my wife how we met,
    Interests
    Criminal history (If any) - in my case did not apply,
    Gross Salary, Income,
    Information on the childrens natural farther,
    History on my family,
    History on Wife's family,
    Questions on if the childrens natural farther contacted them after the adoption what our intentions would be.
    Interview to childern to establish thier thoughts and what they wanted.

    After the 5th interview you can guage were this is going, and the social worker said i shouls apply to the courts.

    You need to fill out a A58 form and reed the Guide Follow the link below to the A58 and Guide:

    http://www.adoption.org.uk/informati...parent/a58.pdf

    http://www.adoption.org.uk/informati...leting_a58.pdf

    We then applied to the courts and sent a cheque for £320 made payable to HMCTS that £160 per child.

    The courts then refered the case to a higher court do the internationl involvment and waited for perliminary hearing has this its not daunting in conducted in a private room present were my family the social work and a Judge.

    Just waiting now for the Adoption Order to be granted when i am next in UK and wait for the cermony then all will be complete.

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    A couple of Important Issues i forgot to mention: (Dont know if a mod can place together.)

    In April of 2012 we went on holiday to Thailand, one of the tasks was to to locate the childrens natural farther. We went to the last known address of the farther in order to establish his abode.

    The farther could not be located, so we left posters on telegraph pole's with his name stateing to phone this number as it is in his interests - This was a fruitless task. However it was an attempt to locate him none the less.

    When we went for the preliminary hearing in early Jan 13 i thought the only issue would be regarding the natural farther, however this was not the case.

    UK Law states if the parents were not married and is before 2005 the the Natural Farther does not have parental responseability.

    This was a good out come for us as both children were born before this date.

    So all in all time Start Oct 2011 Adoption order with Ceromony April 2013. Total time frame approx 1.5 years.

    If you are to go down this route then ILR is a minimum as there are NO immigration issues.

    The Judge illuded that if my wife did not have ILR the there would be cause for concern.

    her endeth the story.

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    Mick, I'll tidy the post up when I'm at a PC.

    Many thanks for this, it will be helpful to others in the future I'm sure
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    The final hearing is on the 5 April
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9851colle View Post
    The final hearing is on the 5 April
    Good luck mate but it sounds cut and dried

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    A quick question, Once the Adoption is finalised on Friday, Do i recieve a new birth certificate for the boys or will it be an adoption order which will act as a birth certificate???

    I have searched the web and everything is set up for UK adoptions with UK children and nothing is for foriegn children.

    This is for later on when we apply for passports.
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    You actually get new adopted birth certificates, in UK style.

    Also do appreciate that their former birth certificates are not returned to you. They are retained by the Court, as their previous identities will have been superseded.
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    Thank you for this John.

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    Well thats an end to this chapter, Adoption finalised and adoption order granted...

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    Excellent news
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    Mick, congratulations! And welcome to two new British Citizens! Just a question of waiting for their new British-style birth certificates, then applying for their British passports.
    John

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    John,

    They were registered to become British in Dec and was approved on the 29 Jan as was unsure at that time on the outcome of the adoption, i know expensive but had to cover all angles...


    One for Tobias: 2 new little Judges

    Panin.jpgChanon (2).jpg

    The New Family

    Colley Family.jpg

    Mick and Family...
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    OK, not new British Citizens, but their pre-adoption status is now no longer.

    Are their post-adoption names the same as their pre-adoption names? Especially if different I suspect that new British passports will need to be applied for.
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    Will get Passports with thier mother shortly..

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