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    Ok clarity it is:-

    1 - I have never hit a thai person, how many times must I correct this? you talk about my grammar etc what about your reading?
    I clearly admit to hitting as drunken farrang!!!!! NOT A THAI. Learn to read.

    2 - I do not teach grammar here on conversational English.

    3 - It was not my intention to belittle any teachers here, I stated that with my qualifications I am overly qualified to teach here. ie I do not need all the certificates I have to be able to teach here.
    I have stated before I am not the best teacher in the world, but I try my best and with an assessment score from 15 Thai teachers of over 90% and a perfect score from the students and 2 students winning competitions I must be doing something right.

    What about a thread about the fact that you keep reading what you like not what is posted, I am sorry but you cannot blame my grammar etc for that. I never said I hit a Thai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shrek48 View Post
    Ok clarity it is:-

    1 - I have never hit a thai person, how many times must I correct this? you talk about my grammar etc what about your reading?
    I clearly admit to hitting as drunken farrang!!!!! NOT A THAI. Learn to read.
    Who are you replying to here, shrek? I don't recall anyone mentioning you hitting a Thai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shrek48 View Post
    .... I clearly admit to hitting as drunken farrang!!!!!
    Sorry, Ash, I couldn't resist responding to this one!!

    So you admit you hit someone when you were drunk?????? What an admission to make!!

    I know this is a typo ('a' and 's' being next to each other on the keyboard) but it illustrates perfectly how easy it is to convey the wrong meaning when typing, not always intentionally.

    We all understand (I hope) that you hit a farang who was drunk and meant to write "a drunken farrang".

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrek48 View Post
    Ok clarity it is:-

    1 - I have never hit a thai person, how many times must I correct this? you talk about my grammar etc what about your reading?
    I clearly admit to hitting as drunken farrang!!!!! NOT A THAI. Learn to read.


    What about a thread about the fact that you keep reading what you like not what is posted, I am sorry but you cannot blame my grammar etc for that. I never said I hit a Thai.
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    What about a thread about the fact that you keep reading what you like not what is posted, I am sorry but you cannot blame my grammar etc for that. I never said I hit a Thai.
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    I don't know about a thread Ash.
    but in response, people do not read what they want into what you have written, they read what you post.
    As I posted yesterday grammer and puntuation change what people think you mean. This has been pointed out only a few posts ago, a mistake that totally changes the meaning of what actually happened.

    It also highlights the point I was trying to make yesterday about help being offered or given.
    Using your statement as an example (not in anyway am I saying you did hit a Thai or were drunk just an example) it actually says, you, when drunk hit a person.
    If you were in need of help, somebody reading this, could think you go around getting drunk and hitting people and you deserve all you get. NO help offered
    When in fact, you were not drunk, but did hit a drunk farang. Where the Thai came from only confuses things even more.

    I hope this helps you understand a little bit where people with good intentions are coming from.

    I do believe people are just seeking clarity, and for you it is not being asked for, in the right way.

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    "I do not teach grammar here on conversational English."

    Now this sentence has two possible meanings: One, that you do not teach grammar on the topic of conversational English. Conversational English is far from grammatical. Often there are run on sentences, sentence fragments, body language, tone of voice and other important factors that convey meaning. Written English is different than spoken English, especially "conversational" English.

    Two, you made a tpyo and meant to say "...or conversational English."

    Or perhaps you meant to write "...of conversational English."

    Clear it ain't. That's the problem.

    And then the bitter ripostes at the end of your paragraphs, "Learn to read.", or "...what about your reading?" That's getting tiresome now, and does your argument no good. I daresay, good advice ( an oft misspelled word on this thread) for you is "Write better." For example:

    You once or more often wrote "...should of..." Now you want me to believe that in your classrooms you teach "...should have..." (the present Perfect tense) or its common contraction "should've", and then when on this thread you write "should of", I think you are not qualified to be a teacher, regardless of how much esteem you think your Thai colleagues hold you in or how "overqualified" you are in your own estimation. Your confrontational manner and deliberate (according to you) sloppy use of language here, which does not meet the general accepted standard, is the antithesis of the traits a good teacher will have, much less present a rational argument. "Full speed ahead! Damn the torpedoes!" seems to be the way you do things, impulsively, and that's fine. For you. It's your life. If it works for you, then go for it.

    Take a look as a teacher of English at your own work. Give it a grade and be sure to consider the effectivness of your writing on your intended reader(s). If you are honest, you'd admit you fail. And what dismays me, as an ex-teacher, is I see no improvement and no desire to improve. You don't bother using capitalization and punctution and don't want to, even if it is in your own interests. If you are deliberately unwilling to improve yourself, and snap back at people who don't revere you the way you want them to or understand what you meant to write, well then, you hoist your own petard.

    What amazes me on this website is the abundant good will directed to you by well-meaning men you likely will never meet in person to thank for their interest and for their advice about your affairs.

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    When opinion/comment/advise is given, sometimes Ash posts in a tone that gives the impression of an aggressive nature
    pretty much as in #721 -
    Learn to read
    nice??

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrek48 View Post
    3 - It was not my intention to belittle any teachers here, I stated that with my qualifications I am overly qualified to teach here. ie I do not need all the certificates I have to be able to teach here.
    I have stated before I am not the best teacher in the world, but I try my best and with an assessment score from 15 Thai teachers of over 90% and a perfect score from the students and 2 students winning competitions I must be doing something right.
    You are probably right, you are over qualified to teach English in a small school in a small town in rural Thailand. You have 15 Thai teachers and 1 foreign teacher at your school, that is a very small school and it's likely that they don't get many foreign teachers wanting to teach at the school, so comparisons will be quite limited.

    If you wish to clarify, please do.

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    I’ve just found this on my local KK forum:-

    “Wow!Almost every day I hear of our British troops being flown home in body bags asyoung as 18”.

    I won’t elaborate on the actual and (I presume) intended meanings of this. Perhaps a teacher of English can explain for us.

    Perhaps it won’t come as a great surprise but the author of this sentence claims to be a TEACHER OF ENGLISH (!!!!!) who’s worked around the world and owns (or has owned) an English school in KK city.

    Gawd ‘elp us!!! (Deliberate colloquial conversational English).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribal Fusion View Post
    My wife's fascination seems to be shoes, make up, clothes, facebook, you tube, cooking, working, ebay (that's my fault), but not gold, maybe she's odd, well, she must be, she married me!
    Just add ''handbags'' and ''grandchildren'', and that's my wife too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin & Jin View Post
    I’ve just found this on my local KK forum:-

    “Wow!Almost every day I hear of our British troops being flown home in body bags as young as 18”.

    I won’t elaborate on the actual and (I presume) intended meanings of this. Perhaps a teacher of English can explain for us.

    .
    I am not a teacher of English. I am not even a native speaker. But I want to give this a try. I guess that as it is written now, it could be understood as the body bags being described as "young as 18", when in fact I presume "as young as 18" was meant to refer to the "British troops." I think the sentence could be improved by rearranging it this way:

    “Wow!Almost every day I hear of our British troops, as young as 18, being flown home in body bags."

    I don't know complex grammar rules. But it seems that the rule in operation here is that modifiers (i.e., as young as 18) should be close to the noun they describe (i.e., British troops.) That's only my guess.

    In a related issue, as a non-native speaker of English I appreciate the efforts of the members who advocate correctly- written English here. But please do not send us (including other like-minded members, that is) to an English grammar-orientated forum instead. LOL We know this site does not provide English lessons. We are here principally for other more important considerations. But you must undertand, too, that we thought-whether rightly or wrongly- that we could enjoy the side benefit of enriching our knowledge of English by being in this UK forum.
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    I know Ash's grammar isn't perfect. His thread is about life in the world that he chooses to live in. Why condemn the bloke for that? For the umpteenth time, why not forget the grammar and get back to the nitty gritty; unless things change, where will he be this time next year?

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    I'm up for that, live and live

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    Ok guys, the grammar lessons and knitpicking are really getting BORING.

    Shrek posts with passion and I like his style. I've read every one of his posts and fully understand what he has said.

    Carry on Shrek, you make the forum a better place
    If you're offended by any assistance I give, it says far more about you than it does me.

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    It's nitpicking
    "You're so unapproachable!"
    "And yet, here you are."

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    Was gonna write something but nah

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Keith- View Post
    Carry on Shrek
    Now that certainly would be an "interesting" addition to the Carry On movies

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    Well put Phil & Keith. There was another thread run recently where members could have debated spelling and grammar. The only thing I've posted negative about shrek, was to ask him to read his posts before hitting the reply button. You know I always have a read through the unread's while I have my breakfast, and this thread has always been good entertainment. He's a good bloke shrek, He got off his ass and did what I think was very brave. Took guts to come out here on his own, near enough no experience of Thailand. Oh he has made some mistakes, but he was good enough to share these with us. Of course this then gives opportunity to attack him on various accounts. I tell you something, I read the posts this morning, and I say thank god for this one ... There is only so much "I'm bored" or "I'm up early" or "I'm going to bed" or "I've run out of beer." Posting this sort of stuff for what ? Oh look at me with all these posts, aren't I wonderful !!! Pity 95% of them are made up of complete dribble !!

    So keep going ash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handyman View Post
    Pity 95% of them are made up of complete dribble !!
    Are you confusing these posts with bird's nest soup? Or did you mean 'drivel'
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    No .. I Meant dribble

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    Quote Originally Posted by handyman View Post
    No .. I Meant dribble
    I'm not convinced you did but I wouldn't want to argue with that master of the language!

    Im not very good at making convo so sometimes il simplely walk past some rather than babble on about nothing. Is this wrong, also with certain people once you stop you're lured there for ages.
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