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    I'm her stepdad.... I secured a visit visa for my Thai wife 3 years ago but I retired to Thailand so there was no need for a spouse visa. My son in law has decided to use a uk based immigration lawyer to get a visa for his wife (she was refused a visit visa 2 years ago) has anyone used this method to do the same?
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    If you are British and you're her Dad , does she not have a British Passport ?, that would eliminate any need for Visas .
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenhulme View Post
    I'm her stepdad.... I secured a visit visa for my Thai wife 3 years ago but I retired to Thailand so there was no need for a spouse visa. My son in law has decided to use a uk based immigration lawyer to get a visa for his wife (she was refused a visit visa 2 years ago) has anyone used this method to do the same?
    He should save his money. A grand is crazy for something where you have to do 90% of the work gathering the information yourself. A spouse (settlement visa) is not that difficult to get. Quite a bit of paperwork but much simpler than a visit visa as there is no reason to return required.

    Why was she refused the visit visa? It could have a bearing on this application depending on the reason(s) she was refused.

    Is the immigration lawyer OISC accredited? If not I wouldn't use him/her.

    Your SIL will need to show that he has an annual income of £18,600 or above.

    She will need a TB test and an English language test. (A1) If her English is pretty good go for the harder tests. B1 is currently required for Indefinite Leave to Remain which is five years further down the line.

    Many people on here who have been through it will be happy to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasg View Post
    He should save his money. A grand is crazy for something where you have to do 90% of the work gathering the information yourself. A spouse (settlement visa) is not that difficult to get. Quite a bit of paperwork but much simpler than a visit visa as there is no reason to return required.

    Why was she refused the visit visa? It could have a bearing on this application depending on the reason(s) she was refused.

    Is the immigration lawyer OISC accredited? If not I wouldn't use him/her.

    Your SIL will need to show that he has an annual income of £18,600 or above.

    She will need a TB test and an English language test. (A1) If her English is pretty good go for the harder tests. B1 is currently required for Indefinite Leave to Remain which is five years further down the line.

    Many people on here who have been through it will be happy to help.
    To late he has already paid them £500 deposit I told him he could do it easy himself but he's determined to go down this road. I'm sending all the collected documents needed from this end to him tomorrow, just wondering when she goes to VFS Bangkok for her biometrics what she needs to take...obviously her passport...all the needed documents will already be with the lawyer over in the uk...unless they are supposed to send them back to her for her to present to VFS! not sure how this works thats why I was asking if anybody has done it this way.
    The reason the visit visa got a refusal was the date she met him for the first time did not tally with the date she said when she got a phone call... she panicked in the phone call I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenhulme View Post
    To late he has already paid them £500 deposit I told him he could do it easy himself but he's determined to go down this road. I'm sending all the collected documents needed from this end to him tomorrow, just wondering when she goes to VFS Bangkok for her biometrics what she needs to take...obviously her passport...all the needed documents will already be with the lawyer over in the uk...unless they are supposed to send them back to her for her to present to VFS! not sure how this works thats why I was asking if anybody has done it this way.
    The reason the visit visa got a refusal was the date she met him for the first time did not tally with the date she said when she got a phone call... she panicked in the phone call I'm sure.
    The definition of a deposit, as far as I know, is that you can ask for it back.

    Most of the supporting documents etc have to be sent directly to an address in Sheffield as the decision is made there.

    Here is what is needed for VFS in Bangkok:

    http://www.vfsglobal.co.uk/th/en/vac...bring-with-you

    If that is all that was on the refusal notice it should be fine. He will need to address it in his sponsor letter for this visa though.

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    I did use a 3rd party for my wife's visit visa, and first settlement visa but like Rasg said i did more than 90 % of the work more like 95 %.
    I can tell you the cost was around £500 .
    Since then i did my wife's FLR m myself as i was here and more hands on i think it was just to make the misses more at home and a base she could use ie point of contact ,
    Also may i point out that the documents that was translated would be around £250 to do in the UK as i have found out when translations for our marriage certificate didn't get returned .
    So the visa company on that scale got around £200 which like rasg said didn't do a lot ,
    But did take a bit of work and stress away ,was it worth the money ?would i use them again ?
    Yes i think it was worth the money ,
    yes i would use them again or recommend them ,for the first visa as being some 6000 miles away doesn't help .
    But if i would have been in Bangkok i would have done it my self using the advice this site gives ,
    hope that helps ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samsung View Post
    I did use a 3rd party for my wife's visit visa, and first settlement visa but like Rasg said i did more than 90 % of the work more like 95 %.
    I can tell you the cost was around £500 .
    Since then i did my wife's FLR m myself as i was here and more hands on i think it was just to make the misses more at home and a base she could use ie point of contact ,
    Also may i point out that the documents that was translated would be around £250 to do in the UK as i have found out when translations for our marriage certificate didn't get returned .
    So the visa company on that scale got around £200 which like rasg said didn't do a lot ,
    But did take a bit of work and stress away ,was it worth the money ?would i use them again ?
    Yes i think it was worth the money ,
    yes i would use them again or recommend them ,for the first visa as being some 6000 miles away doesn't help .
    But if i would have been in Bangkok i would have done it my self using the advice this site gives ,
    hope that helps ,
    I did my wifes first visit visa myself from the uk but flew out to Thailand with all the supporting documents and application form and we both went to VFS Global together I even took the gamble and prepaid for her flight back to the uk with me booked for 3 weeks later. All worked good for us. I don't understand my son in law for paying such a large amount to an agent £1000 is a lot of money especially when you do 95% of the document finding yourself. Still each to their own I wish them the best for the application. Thank you all that commented on my post I will post the result on here when it happens. :-)

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    Great read!!
    Very Very comprehensive and I've already printed this out......
    I've already written a post on here before setting eyes on this, but I have seen one section that has completely thrown a spanner in the works in my head ha-ha!! and I want to make sure I am going to get this right.

    Ok, I'm planning on flying out in June for 3 weeks to get married to my Thai girlfriend of 2 years.....I will bring everything that I have documents wise with me and once the TB tests, marriage certificates, English tests are all finalized finish off the application and hopefully get her in the door at VFS global with a nice pack to present to them whilst I am still there and then I will return with my pack and get it sent to Sheffield from the UK.

    I've just logged onto the Visa4U site and created an account for my girlfriend in her current name and haven't opened up the settlement visa online form and started filling it out yet. I was going to but then I read this great thread from Frogster (Kev) and decided to pause until I get a definitive answer...

    My main concern from reading this thread is about the name of my bride to be....and what I need to make sure matches up....

    I've set up the account in her current name. I just want to know is there going to be any clashes of information if there is different names on different things...i.e her TB tests has her name and maiden name, same as her English tests, then the marriage certificates will potentially have my surname on there, will her passports and ID card need changing to include my surname. Am I best getting married straight away, getting her passport and ID changed quickly to reflect a new name and include this on the application form........the more I think about all this the more its setting alarm bells off in my head as I would hate to get tripped up because of this.....does anybody have a definitive answer on what I should put on the application form and what needs to match up with it.....

    1. Online Application form = Exisiting name or new name?
    2. Passport presented at VFS = Existing or new name?
    3. ID card presented at VFS = Existing or new name?
    4. TB test = Existing or new name?
    5. English Tests = Existing or new name?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated

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    We got married in 2016 and my wife uses her married name for anything new that comes along. She kept her maiden name for most official things and as they run out we will change them to her married name.

    A bit like you I didn’t want any "spanner in the works" caused by changing her name part way through a visa application etc.

    Her NINO, her passort etc are in her maiden name. Council tax, bank account etc are in her married name.

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    Like rasg, we married and Nok kept her maiden name right up until she did her Citizenship application when we were advised to do it in her married name.
    We had no problems up until that time (not that changing it then was a problem).

    One thing you will need to watch out for further down the road (but will not affect your future wife for some 5 odd years, and only if she decides to go for Citizenship), the rules have changed since Nok came here and apparently (someone please verify) you can no longer have passports in 2 different names, her Thai and UK passports names must match.
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    Thanks Rasg,
    Just to summarise that answer then. Shall I just continue with her maiden name for everything. Except the marriage certificates and then look at changes when she eventually gets here. I just read on that post that it's a quick process to change passport and ID card, like 4 days or something..certainly a lot quicker than over here...

    Cheers

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    And Gary, just read your reply, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz M View Post
    Thanks Rasg,
    Just to summarise that answer then. Shall I just continue with her maiden name for everything. Except the marriage certificates and then look at changes when she eventually gets here. I just read on that post that it's a quick process to change passport and ID card, like 4 days or something..certainly a lot quicker than over here...
    For me it would depend on the expiry date of the various things. My wife's passport runs out in 2020 and it was fairly new when she applied for her settlement visa and we got married in the UK too. Her ID card runs out in 2022.

    I've read about a couple of people in the last few years where the Thai GF or wife has decided to change their name in the middle of, or close to, a visa application and that must be a nightmare.

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    If you have time I advise your Mrs change everything into her Married name, it does nt take too long and can save problems later on.
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    She doesn't have to have a 'married name' there's nothing in the laws of either Thailand or the UK that says name changes are needed for marriage. However, it's important to keep the same name and not change it if you're going with the name she already has. Changes during the process (of this visa, the next one, the ILR, and citizenship, if you go that far) will cause problems down the line.
    If your partner does wish to change her last name to yours when you marry, then everything she has should reflect that change. She will be given paperwork at the Amphur office that shows the name change, that will need to be translated into English. She will also get a new National ID card. She will need a new passport too. Then you should change the name on the visa application as well. You can start another application quite easily. You can also open an account at Visa4UK in your name and click the 'I'm applying for someone else' option.
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    Biff thanks,
    I think I'm going to change my trip to a month rather than 3 weeks and give myself plenty of time to sort her new passport and ID card out and get all the tests done in her new name. Smash the wedding stuff in the 1st week and do the rest in the remaining 3 weeks and get her through the VFS door before I fly back......should be more than enough time....I hope haha

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    The new ID card takes less than five minutes and is done in the same Amphur office where you get the marriage certificate, assuming you do that in her home town where she's registered (in the blue Tabien Baan/House Book). Passport takes about a week to arrive after she has applied for a new one.

    To be honest, I wouldn't have advised my wife to change her name at all, but during the marriage registration process she was advised to do so by an official in the Amphur office. My Thai language skills at the time weren't great so I missed the conversation where a 19 year old who had never been out of the province advised my wife that it would be 'easier' to obtain visas for the UK if she had my name.

    It would have made no difference at all.

    Still, it's done now.

    The main thing is that if names are going to be changed, it's better to do it at the beginning of the process rather than during it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bifftastic View Post
    Passport takes about a week to arrive after she has applied for a new one.
    There is a same day service available for 3000 baht which my wife used in January but it’s only available at the Cheang Wattana passport office in Bangkok. Basically we got there about 9am. It took about 30 minutes to apply and have photo taken. We were told to go back at 2pm which we did and walked out 10 minutes later with a new passport. Normal renewal costs 1000 baht.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackem Stu View Post
    There is a same day service available for 3000 baht which my wife used in January but it’s only available at the Cheang Wattana passport office in Bangkok. Basically we got there about 9am. It took about 30 minutes to apply and have photo taken. We were told to go back at 2pm which we did and walked out 10 minutes later with a new passport. Normal renewal costs 1000 baht.
    Really good to know for anyone with no time to spare, Thanya Park Passport Office, Suan Luang (BKK) using normal service is 3 days, posted out to a BKK address after filling application and mugshot etc which took about 30 mins.
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    [QUOTE=bifftastic;280109]The new ID card takes less than five minutes and is done in the same Amphur office where you get the marriage certificate, assuming you do that in her home town where she's registered (in the blue Tabien Baan/House Book). Passport takes about a week to arrive after she has applied for a new one.
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    Biff, Stu......Thanks

    Good info on the passport details and same day option, will definitely go for that.
    Regarding the ID card Biff, any idea it how long it would take or if its possible to get one at an Amphor in Bangkok? Reason being if I can get the Passport and marriage certificates and ID all done in Bangkok that would be ideal. I've just heard that some Amphor houses in the smaller provinces potentially send the affirmations etc back to Bangkok for verification.....which could waste a lot of time. If she can get her ID card done in Bangkok that would be so much easier. Is this possible? I will get her to speak to her local Amphor to find out if indeed they do send the docs back, if they don't then that's good as she's only 3 hrs drive from Bangkok.

    Thanks again....

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    The affirmation of freedom to marry (which you obtain from the British Embassy) needs to be translated and then the translation is stamped at the MFA, which is the Thai government verifying it. So I'm not sure what other form of verification any Amphur office would need. Maybe some people didn't do that last step and had theirs sent to Bangkok for that to happen?
    Her ID card needs to be done in her local Amphur office as that's where it comes from. We did our marriage registration in our local office so that's why it took five minutes, it's just one more form to fill out and then they produce the name change document. It is a Letter of Certification which says:
    This letter of certification is issued to certify that Miss <name> Identification number <number> residing at <address> has presented the evidence of the marriage document Registration number xxx/xxxxx dated <date> issued at <Amphur office that issued it> before the registrar, she would like to use the title of 'Mrs' and wishes to use the family name of the male party.
    The registrar has checked and found that the statement is correct. Therefore this letter of certification is issued as evidence.
    Given on <date> signed <name of registrar> <signature>
    Then with that letter a new ID card can be issued.
    So, if you want to do everything in Bangkok up to and including getting the marriage certificate, then you can do the name change and new ID card in her local Amphur.
    Then go back to Bangkok and get a new passport.
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    Hi Biff,

    Thanks again for all this information. Can I just clarify that about the name change certificate, that she doesn't need to bring it with her to the Amphur officer before we get married.....I know you've said that we can get it all done in Bangkok and then head to her local Amphur office for the Name change certificate and issuing of new ID card......the reason I am asking is because I've seen on a couple of Getting Married in Thailand sites under the 'What your Fiance' needs to bring'.....


    National ID Card
    House Registration Book
    Original Divorce or Death Certificate (If applicable)
    Name Change Certificates

    Are they referring to the one that the Amphur would issue or a name change certificate from say a previous marriage?

    Sorry for this, but just want to be have a good understanding of it...

    Thanks in advance

    Baz

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