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    A mate of mine in Bangkok has just been granted Permanent Residency. As far as I'm aware he is the only farang I know who had gone through with this.

    Has anyone on here obtained PR status, or are any of our long-term residents planning to apply?

    Mind you, the process does seem a little protracted and puts the complaints here over delays in obtaining settlement visas into perspective! He originally applied in December 2007 and had heard nothing at all in over 4 years!!
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    Any idea what it cost him Gordie? Other than not having to worry about visa dates, why did he do it?

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    I'd been considering applying for PR sometime in the near future but, having looked into it a bit, have decided it's a non-starter.

    I could satisfy all the publicised requirements except one - the need to have paid (income?) tax to Thailand during my time here. Without that, they won't consider your application, apparently. Since I don't work here & don't want to, there's no way round it in my particular circumstances. The tax requirement also applies to Citizenship. Can't supply any links to info. but I think I've read everything I've seen correctly.

    Oh well, I guess the only option is to continue with the 90-day/annual renewal route however much it confirms to me - others mightn't feel the same way - that "we" have no place in Thailand and no chance for a stable & settled life (since we can fail to fulfil annual extension requirements at any time if they're changed) as it'd be understood in UK and never will under current rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phetchy View Post
    Any idea what it cost him Gordie? Other than not having to worry about visa dates, why did he do it?
    It was mainly the visa issue, I think, not having to worry about them ever again, however much they might move the goalposts. He reckons it cost him about B110.000 in total. After a year he can apply for citizenship/passport though he is anticipating that taking another 5 years!

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    Something else he mentioned was an apparent change in attitude from the current administration. He said that previous Interior Ministers had kept applications pending for years, the democrats issued none and TRT very few. The current Ministry have now dealt with all applications from 2006-8 and intend to clear the rest of the backlog asap. Seems like the attitude towards the evil foreigner may be changing slightly for the better.
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    If you're married to a Thai citizen I don't believe you have to apply for PR first. You can apply for citizenship.

    Going to take about 8 years though.


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    PR is another step on the road to Citizenship. I know for a certain that this opportunity is offered by the Thai government to only 100 people of each nationality very year. They are evaluating applications for about 5months and then calls successful applicants for interview. Generally, the whole process can take up to a year.


    I don't understand about the sudden change of attitude of the current administrator as you mentioned above. However, I know that they are becoming so strict towards foreigner especially form UK i think. I am thinking of some possible reasons but I'm sorry I cannot share it here. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bedzilla View Post
    However, I know that they are becoming so strict towards foreigner especially form UK i think. I am thinking of some possible reasons but I'm sorry I cannot share it here. =)
    Why mention it then. We like a bit of controversy to discuss; so unless it's something illegal or immoral and is likely to get you banged up, why keep it to yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bedzilla View Post
    They are evaluating applications for about 5 months and then calls successful applicants for interview. Generally, the whole process can take up to a year.
    Yes that was his experience initially. Submitted a few mountains of paperwork, had a visit from officials to his apartment where they took photos (including one of my friend and his wife on their bed!) and then a few months later he attended an interview (in Thai).

    The 4+ year wait that followed does not match your description though and btw, he is not from the UK!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTG View Post
    The 4+ year wait that followed does not match your description though and btw, he is not from the UK!
    The 4+ year wait that followed does not match your description though and btw, he is not from the UK!
    That I don't know what happened there. Maybe they made something like a slot machine or draw lots process. (just exaggerating) But most likely, it should be done for a year, depends on the nationality of the applicants. But for more than 4yrs? Maybe, only them can answer that.


    Submitted a few mountains of paperwork, had a visit from officials to his apartment where they took photos (including one of my friend and his wife on their bed!)
    Now this is unusual. I never thought they can do that. It is indeed my first time to hear something like that.

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    I am sure someone told me that there are (were) only two UK Thai citizens. One being a chap who had leased out all the spaces/land under inner city flyovers and became very rich renting the spaces for markets etc. Dont know about the other one.
    I know of two Americans that have Thai citizenship but it is a restricted type like that handed to neighboring county immigrants.
    The other precursor for Thai citizenship is being able to speak and write Thai to a certain level.

    The numbers getting granted varies from 10-100 per year. I think it is the lower................
    Judging others before you have met isn't a wise option.

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    Why mention it then. We like a bit of controversy to discuss; so unless it's something illegal or immoral and is likely to get you banged up, why keep it to yourself?
    I'm so sorry but I would rather say facts than just my speculations. I know you can formulate yours. Anyhow, you have the daily news online so you can see it yourself. Hope you understand sir.

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    read every day but trying to understand. Any clues?
    Judging others before you have met isn't a wise option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bedzilla View Post
    I'm so sorry but I would rather say facts than just my speculations. I know you can formulate yours. Anyhow, you have the daily news online so you can see it yourself. Hope you understand sir.
    Ah! So the butler didn't do it!

    Quote Originally Posted by ian1208 View Post
    I know of two Americans that have Thai citizenship but it is a restricted type like that handed to neighboring county immigrants.
    Or low handicap golfers with a few bob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phetchy View Post

    Or low handicap golfers with a few bob.
    There you go Phil - sorted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bedzilla View Post
    But most likely, it should be done for a year, depends on the nationality of the applicants. But for more than 4yrs? Maybe, only them can answer that.
    If you read my previous post you will see that it appears to have been simply because the previous administrations were apparently not granting anyone permanent residency for an extended period of time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bedzilla View Post
    Now this is unusual. I never thought they can do that. It is indeed my first time to hear something like that.
    I should stress that they were fully clothed!
    Last edited by GTG; 5th Dec 2012 at 01:08.
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    I believe that the previous administration didn't actually declare that they weren't granting PR. They still went through the motions, right up to the point where the relevant minister was supposed to sign them. He just didn't sign any of them!
    "You're so unapproachable!"
    "And yet, here you are."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian1208 View Post
    I am sure someone told me that there are (were) only two UK Thai citizens. One being a chap who had leased out all the spaces/land under inner city flyovers and became very rich renting the spaces for markets etc. Dont know about the other one.
    If that's true, I know the other one.

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