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    Sweetocean_69,
    I want to point out even if it is unnecessary that there is something you can do right now to dramatically improve your listening and speaking: Listen to BBC and ABC. The Australian TV has numerous English language programmes for learners and you should make it a daily habit. Practice makes perfect. You will probably even be able to download shows, and certainly listen to the same one as many times as you want to.

    Learning a new language is easier when you are immersed in it as you would be in the UK, but the next best thing is to listen, which you could do all day long, especially with so many gadgets around. Also, listening to the BBC and ABC will give you a good idea of the kind of things that matter to most ordinary people, how the lifestyle works, and things like that. I know ABC TV has a show for adult learners that features a multi-cultural group sharing a house that I am sure you would find interesting if not fascinating.

    Good luck on your IELTS, and your future endeavours. I daresay you will be successful, whatever that means to you, as long as you keep trying.

    And best of all, after paying for your internet connection, it is all free.
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    thank you very much for more information/idea. i will try to do more things while i'm figuring thing out. i could not open this post for few days. i thought i was blocked or something but now i am able to check more info on this post.

    as i mentioned eariler, after getting the result of the IELTS. i will need more suggestion from that point. i will ask for more suggestion/advice again because after getting the result. it's easier to point/ to judge me to the right way.

    thank you very much for all of people who are very kind to me.

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    Default i need more advice/suggestion about finding school in UK, please help.

    it's Aun again. on the first post i asked for the affordable places for studying. i need to take the language training courses and i would like to study degree after being qualified. if anyone could guide me to the very cheap place please. i would prefer to go to somewhere which has the long public transportation service because if i have to work part-time i will be able to get back.

    and i also mentioned about IELTS, i've got the result now. writing 5.5, listening 5.5, reading 6, speaking 6.5, over all 6. with this result what should i do??

    how could i find the affordable places? i tried google it but i couldn't.

    and i have a bit more question that i would like to know. if anyone know about ABE (Association of Business Execusive) www.abeuk.com, some school (i thing it's private shcool) offers the affordable courses. ex. 3,xxx pound per year.

    if ABE is created for international student only?
    if ABE is common for British?
    is ABE degree accepted in UK? for applying for a job.

    please help me find the normal and cheap places for language training for getting ready for the degree study.

    if it's possible for getting TIER 4 for the language training course?
    if someone know how to get the long term student visa. i don't want to travel back for re-applying for the visa.

    i hope someone would help me find out the right solution. i want to do it in the cheapest way. please help.

    Aun

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    Aun,

    Most Universities run intensive English language classes in the summer holidays prior to the start of courses in October. These are intended for incoming overseas students and are inexpensive or even free. It's worth checking with your University of choice, although you might find yourself in the Catch 22 situation where you can't be accepted on the course without the requisite English qualification level but won't be admitted to Summer School without a course. Every University will have their own rules on this. Maybe it's not essential that you even intend to use that particular Uni. (a tip there for anyone looking for cheap/free English tuition) Try asking, I know for certain that a great many students arrive from countries all over the world to start their studies every year with less understanding of English than you apparently have.

    £3,xxx a year sounds very inexpensive for a years tuition to me. Are you aware of the true tuition costs of a reputable University for a full-time overseas student will be several times that amount? I'm out of date but 10 years ago I had an idea it was more like £12,xxx and that can only have increased. All Universities love overseas students because the fees carry a premium over home students BUT the government operate a quota system on these places, so often the places are allocated biased towards the most expensive courses, Post Grad Business courses and such. It's another way the Universities make money.

    Be careful with your choice. In recent times some less reputable institutions have offered language course aimed purely to allow "students" to enter the country and work. We are lead to believe that there's been a crack down on these practices now; however be aware that these places might still exist, now under a more professional looking facade and you may not end up getting very good tuition for your apparently low fee, which would defeat your purpose. I'm not accusing ABE of any wrongdoing, I know nothing about them.. just exercise caution when you choose.

    Sorry if I've sounded negative, I don't mean to put you off, go get it, the very best of luck with your studies too.

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    Some institutions seem to give themselves names that similar to more reputable organisations which to me is misleading.

    If you want to improve your English, stay in Thailand and work with farangs.

    As an example, some of the staff around Kheo san road seem to have a very high standard of spoken language.

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    The trouble being most don't want to improve their English they just want the Exam !

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetocean_69 View Post
    it's Aun again. on the first post i asked for the affordable places for studying. i need to take the language training courses and i would like to study degree after being qualified. if anyone could guide me to the very cheap place please ...
    Hi sweetocean, I've merged your two topics together so that everyone can see what was said to you previously - it makes it easier to find information if it is all in the same place
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    thank you Tobias for merging them together. and thank you for more info and suggetion. i will keep trying to find the right places for myself.

    i've found one place in Ealing, i think it's the private college. they offer ABE in many subject, ex. tourism, business. what is it like in Ealing? can someone give me some info. i did google but i still did not get the idea of ealing.
    is it hard to find the part-time job there?
    is it hard to find the normal and cheap accommodation?
    how about the public transprotation there?

    if someone could give me the name of the places or the link it would be very helpful.

    and again if someone has more advice / suggestion. please let me know.

    Thank you ance again.
    Aun

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    Ealing is in the outskirts of London and has a lot of public transport, it is certainly near the airport and aircraft noise is a problem. I am sure there is part time work but many others do the same, It has a very high population from the indian sub continent. Not sure how you would define cheap. It is in west London !!! many people struggle to afford rent in London. Rents in London are very high.

    Many come to London expecting a lot , many are disappointed.

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    thank you for the info about Ealing.

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    i've found 3 places for language training and ABE courses in London.
    1. http://www.scic.org.uk/
    2. http://www.wlbc-uk.com/
    3. http://www.edgwareacademy.co.uk/

    if they are fine for joining?

    i'm very interested in ABE because the cost of studying is affordable but i am unable to find out if ABE is common for British and ABE degree is accepted in the companies or work places there? because if it's accepted there it also works here in Thailand.

    if anyone can help me find out, please.

    Aun
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    Aun,

    You may have missed something here: ABE do not award degrees. They have diplomas, which at a high enough level looks like could get you a place to join a University degree course (on the 1st year)

    Higher education institutions allowed to award degrees in the UK are subject to regulation by Quality Assurance Agency for Higher Education (QAA). Check out their website:

    http://www.qaa.ac.uk/InstitutionRepo...tions-A-Z.aspx

    They don't have anything to say about ABE so it looks like they are not accredited (by the QAA) so, no degrees. As such I would guess not broadly recognised by all UK employers; however employers may or may not give their diplomas credence depending on their reputation within a particular industry. You must draw your own conclusions or speak to specific employers in your target industry.

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    thank you for more info. i will check the website out. if it's common that people there stop only at Diploma?

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    Those websites look very impressive or should I say nicely designed. The premises they are operating from are shall we say a little modest. They appear to be privately owned unlike some of the publicly owned colleges that teach many other subjects. I would have serious concerns about these types of establishments.

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    yes, all of them are the private language school and they also offer the ABE courses too.

    i've chacked 3 of them wiht the link " http://www.qaa.ac.uk/InstitutionRepo...tions-A-Z.aspx " and i've found 2 of them on this like (no. 1 and 2).

    is it a good idea if i go for language training courses first, it seems like there is over information on internet that i've found and with my limitation of ability in English, it makes thing harder for finding.

    i know that i could join the pre-session courses at college or uni but i couldn't find the place. i mean the affordable one.

    if anyone had more idea or suggestion for me?

    Aun

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetocean_69 View Post
    if it's common that people there stop only at Diploma?
    Yes, plenty of people... but I think nobody ever stops learning, even if they do stop collecting certificates

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    Aun, remind me again. What are you trying to achieve. Do you want to be in the UK or do want to improve your English.

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    i want to improve my English and i also need some documents too. in my understanding improving English is about using/practicing/facing the real situation, these things help me with improving and i also have to have the paper, i mean the document to show when i apply for a job. i guess people are judged by the paper (document). i am not sure in there but here in Thailand it works this way. i have to have something for kicking their eyes for calling me for the job interview. only the resume is not enough as i can see so far.

    i hope i had pointed it out a bit clear.

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