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    Post How does having a baby change a spouse settlement visa?

    Afternoon guys,

    My wife, Fon, is currently on a spouse settlement visa. She has been here since April 2016 so we are quite a way off the FLR part of our visa journey. We have discussed starting a family in the near future and I was wondering how having a child would affect her visa. (For those thinking it is a bit quick to be thinking about kids, we have been together for nearly 6 years, we previously lived together in Thailand for 2.5 years before we started the UK visa process).

    Would she continue on the same visa pathway? Are there different visa options if a child is involved?

    Any help with this would be appreciated.

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    Yes a continuation of the current pathway, only more boxes to fill in on her application.

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    Steve, I would suggest downloading and filling the in the FLR(M) visa application form, that way you will know exactly (at the moment) what requirements there are for the next stage of the journey.

    As Scot said there are a few more boxes to fill in with a child. See section 4 of the form which needs to be filled in
    As well as children who are applying as your dependants you should also include details of all dependent children including those who are British citizens or settled in the UK.
    and of course your child would be a British Citizen, but still needs to be documented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHarris View Post
    ... Would she continue on the same visa pathway? Are there different visa options if a child is involved?
    Having a child will make no difference to the visa pathway, there are no other options open to you. The child, being British, would not need any entry clearance (visa) to be or remain in the UK. The child, as a matter of law, would enjoy both British and Thai nationality.
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    No change, a kid being born won't change or help her over any hurdles

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    I assumed that would be the case but it's always worth checking. Thanks for all your replies My main worry is the LITUK test (which I know is a while away) it seems so difficult ... I don't even know where or how to begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHarris View Post
    My main worry is the LITUK test (which I know is a while away) it seems so difficult ... I don't even know where or how to begin.
    Start here, and look at buying a book. Apparently there is one that is Thai and English so this would help a lot if her English is not that great.

    Do it now, believe me time will fly by and you will then be in panic mode which will not help at all.
    Also don't forget my suggestion in post #3, if not already done?
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    The Life in the UK test reminds me of a rather quirky pub quiz!

    The bilingual Thai/English Life in the UK book is published by Garuda Publications. It's available direct from the publishers and it's on Amazon UK too. There are lots of free online practice tests.

    I definitely second Gary's advice on preparing for FLR(M) well in advance.

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    Wish I'd known about The Thai/English book. I bought the English version from Amazon about six weeks ago. Grrr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasg View Post
    Wish I'd known about The Thai/English book. I bought the English version from Amazon about six weeks ago. Grrr.
    Whilst I can appreciate not wanting to buy it again, I think it would be well worth it to get the Thai/English version.
    Nok literally sat and translated the whole book when she was doing it, took ages and obviously not 100% sure on the translation, a mixture of a Thai/English electronic dictionary from LOS and Google.
    If only this had been around then.
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    I will definitely be buying it. Just peeved I have to buy it twice. I had a look last night to see how often they change the LITUK. Ours is five years away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasg View Post
    I will definitely be buying it. Just peeved I have to buy it twice. I had a look last night to see how often they change the LITUK.
    It may have changed a few times over the last ten years since Nok looked at it, but to be honest I don't think it changed that much from the original. Maybe a few extra/different questions added to make it a bit more relevant to today's times.

    Ours is five years away.
    No it isn't!
    Sorry but just want to make sure that you do NOT leave it for 5 years before trying to take the test.

    Get it done now. Apart from the cost there is no limit to the amount of times you can take the test.
    As with anything visa related I would always advise to do things AS SOON AS POSSIBLE rather than wait.

    At the moment there is no end validity to a LITUK test certificate, once you have it you have it. (obviously we do not know what will change in the future but at the moment it doesn't expire).
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    I didn't realise the LITUK test didn't have an expiry date (hopefully that continues to be the case) so I will be buying the book that was suggested by Tom and Nok this week. I understand that it is a long process to try and learn everything that is required for the test so we will be starting asap. It will also help improve Fon's vocabulary too

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    Sorry but just want to make sure that you do NOT leave it for 5 years before trying to take the test.

    That wasn't quite what I meant. We have made a small start already but the need to have a pass certificate is five years away.

    Get it done now. Apart from the cost there is no limit to the amount of times you can take the test.

    I resent like hell having to give the Government any more than I need to, certainly having just paid for the NHS surcharge and FLR. There will be a lot of schooling before my wife takes the test for that reason alone.

    As with anything visa related I would always advise to do things AS SOON AS POSSIBLE rather than wait.

    At the moment there is no end validity to a LITUK test certificate, once you have it you have it. (obviously we do not know what will change in the future but at the moment it doesn't expire).

    And your last paragraph is the bit that worries me. With the upheaval of Brexit and the talk of limiting immigration to the tens of thousands we won’t be rushing as I wouldn’t trust them not to change the rules and toughen it up even further. Better pronunciation is the main aim for my wife at the moment over the next year or so but there is quite a bit to undo and also getting the wife's business off the ground.

    From what I have read they changed many of the questions over the last couple of years (hence the need for a new book on a regular basis) so I have no doubt that yet another book will appear over the next year or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasg View Post
    And your last paragraph is the bit that worries me. With the upheaval of Brexit and the talk of limiting immigration to the tens of thousands we won’t be rushing as I wouldn’t trust them not to change the rules and toughen it up even further.
    The talk of limiting immigration to the tens of thousands was CaMORON's pathetic attempt at winning voters, who believed he would do it.

    They will certainly be changing the rules because they will need to restrict the free flowing EU immigration, what you have to ask yourself is what impact, if any, will the raising of EU visa rules have on the visa rules that apply to the rest of the world, and I would be asking myself if it is better to get in before these possible changes or wait until after when they might be a whole lot tougher.

    I resent like hell having to give the Government any more than I need to...
    You and everyone else on here
    I have never seen visa or test fees go down, hence my sooner rather than later remark.
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    We have discussed starting a family in the near future and I was wondering how having a child would affect her visa.
    We saw no benefit to the visa process with having a baby, the only change we noticed was it makes putting money aside to pay for it more difficult, due to money being diverted for all the baby essentials and additional travel costs when taking baby back to visit family in Thailand. Made all the harder by:-

    I have never seen visa or test fees go down
    so would strongly agree with

    hence my sooner rather than later remark

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    Thanks again Tom and Nok for the link to the Thai/English Life in the UK book. It arrived today and I have had a look through it. I think I am going to need to learn half this stuff before I help Fon learn it!

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    I know the feeling! As I said,before the LITUK is rather like a quirky pub quiz - there's a mix of useful knowledge and what I would call junk knowledge.

    Nok has found the book very helpfulful and uses a highlighter and dictionary as she works through it. She also tackles the on-line practice tests regularly and writes notes when she's made mistakes to try to help her to learn/memorise the correct answers. She's now asked me if she can have a go at the test for real in December.

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    I'd bet most people who've read the book in preparation for the test know more about the Uk & it's history that most natives

    My wife was naturalised before all this although I do agree with the rules now.

    It was far to easy in the past & all & sundry were getting it.


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