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    Default Visa for my wife's children

    My wife and myself would like to try and get both her children to the uk. I have not got a clue where to start or what supporting documents I need. Any help would be great please


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    I'm sure someone on here will be able to help you, I would imagine it would cost a awful lot of money if it's settlement and your financial requirements for each child jumps by approx £3000 per child.

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    This might be a starting point for you, Apply to join family living permanently in the UK with a fee of £1195 per application.

    Have a look through and see if this meets your requirements.
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    My salary covers alone but my wife is working to so the finance side is not a problem. It's just knowing what supporting documents I need as I have not got a clue


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    As we do not know how long your wife has been in the UK or her responsibility towards to the children, then some more info will be needed.

    Does your wife have Sole Responsibility of her children?
    If yes, then she might/should have the KP 14, a document proving she has sole responsibility of the children.

    Is your wife in contact regularly with the children, is there money sent to support them, is your wife still involved in the daily decisions of her children's lives.

    There will need to be evidence, documents to prove that your wife is in contact and has sole responsibility for the children.

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    When we wish to apply April next year. My wife would have been in uk for 11 months. She is in contact by Skype 2 to 3 times per week. Her x husbands parents look after the children. My wife sends money every month. Her husband and the children's grandparents wish for the children to live in England with her mother


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    When my wife divorced she obtained the KP 14 giving her sole responsibility of her son.
    So when we applied for settlement visa's for both of them (same time) we had proof that my wife had sole custody and sole responsibility of all decisions regarding her son.

    If your wife's ex and grandparents wish for the children to be with her, then you will need some official document confirming their wishes.

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    I think that you will need more than the wish for the ex and inlaws to want the children to come to the UK, from memory of a friend being refused, there has to be a real need for the children to have to come to the UK, ie lack of care in Thailand, i don't think it will be as easy as you are hoping, please do as much research as you can and make sure all the bases are covered. all the best

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    The grandparents are very old and finding it hard to take care of them now. The x husband works everyday in Bangkok where he rents one single room. I'm hoping that is good enough reason


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    This is something I will be considering in the future to get the stepdaughter over and once I have a bigger home.

    My wife's initial settlement visa finishes in April 2018. As far as I'm aware if a visa was granted for my stepdaughter it would also end in April 2018 as they run out the same time. The earliest I could do it would be next year so her visa would last less than a year and then I'd need to renew both.
    Can anyone confirm?

    Just some background.
    My 12 year old stepdaughter lives with her nan (wife's mum) in Ayutthaya and also attends school there. She has lived here whilst my wife worked in Thailand.
    My stepdaughter is becoming unruly and a pain for the nan to look after too i.e. not doing what she's told etc.
    The nan eventually wants to retire to Nong Khai with her husband where she is (slowly) finishing off building her house.
    It's not easy to describe but they live in like an industrial/ scrapyard of the boss. The accommodation is basically a two tiered building made out of steel. Each worker family has their own room and there are shared facilities.
    So the nan, her husband and my stepdaughter all live in one room.
    We send the nan money in order to support her looking after my stepdaughter.
    It is also very tiring for the nan to look after her too.

    The dad has been non existent all her life. He never married my wife and ever contributed towards anything.
    My stepdaughter's surname is the same as my wife's maiden name on her birth certificate (if that accounts for anything).
    When my wife came to UK on a visit visa he magically appeared and took her out for the first time ever. I feel that if my wife never came to UK he would have never bothered. He doesn't want her to live with him either.

    We tried to sort out a passport when we visited in April this year. However needed both parents ID cards, my ID for some reason and also my marriage certificate which was left at home. The dad surprisingly was going to send his ID card so she could get a passport (helpful as I was expecting him to say no).
    I wanted to get the passport so we would already have it when applying for visa.

    I think proving and showing sole responsibility is the hardest thing for us.
    The wife could get that form sorted KP14 in her home city but the dad has seen his daughter a number of times now compared to non existent beforehand so probably changes it all.
    I think showing that my wife makes all her daughters decisions in her life won't be easy. They are in regular contact all the time on Facebook, video messaging etc.
    I have asked my wife to start to consider what documents she could get as evidence to prove sole responsibility it but she doesn't understand.


    It would be better for stepdaughter in the UK. She would be reunited with her mum. She would not be arguing with her nan. Her living conditions would be better as she would have her own room instead of sharing with a 55+ female and a 60+ male (although I am sure that those living arrangements are the norm).
    And above al the nan would be able to retire and not have to worry about looking after her granddaughter.

    Just a few thoughts... thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsw727 View Post
    My wife's initial settlement visa finishes in April 2018. As far as I'm aware if a visa was granted for my stepdaughter it would also end in April 2018 as they run out the same time. The earliest I could do it would be next year so her visa would last less than a year and then I'd need to renew both. Can anyone confirm?
    Yes that's right, Confirmed, assuming you don't fall foul and end up in the tribunal system which could take more than a year on it's own. [Chris] Here are the rules: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigrat...family-members by my reckoning you seem to be applying under Rule 279, (e) or (f) beware of leagalese, especially 'responsibility', which more than likely will not agree with your present conception of it's meaning This IDI spells out most of the problem: https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...10/annex-m.pdf sections 1 and 4 seem to pertain to your circumstances. particularly 4.2.2: "If it is established that the child is being cared for by the relatives of the father but it is the mother who has applied for the child to join her in this country (or vice versa), the application should normally be refused. " In a nutshell, you need convincing evidence of 'Sole Responsibility' and/or 'Serious and Compelling Reasons'. Make an airtight case and go for it. Be prepared and good luck
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