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    Default Full Medical, over 50's MOT, BKK

    Does anyone know of a place/recommend a place in BKK where I can get a full over 50's MOT, bloods, prostate, heart, lungs etc.
    As I'm not getting any younger I just want to get a good once over to make sure I am still good to go.

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    Some Hospitals have check-up programs.

    For example, Bnh, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonerider View Post
    As I'm not getting any younger I just want to get a good once over to make sure I am still good to go.
    Patpong, Nana Plaza, Pattaya. Loads of places
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    I can't recommend anywhere in particular but I would say - have a clear idea of what you want before you go. I've had some experience of private hospitals in Thailand and it took me a while to get used to the differences between them and the state hospitals in the UK that I'm used to.

    You have to be careful when the 'selling starts', you may be offered things you don't really need and conversely you may be discouraged from certain tests because that particular hospital doesn't have the facilities. You may already be used to private medical care but if you're not, its a different ball game.

    Just an example. In 2015 I was due to fly out to Thailand for a month just as I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer. I was in the middle of investigations as to the extent of the disease but I refused to cancel my plans. I had an agreement with my doctor that I would have my blood tested 2 weeks into my trip and if my PSA had risen significantly I would return to the UK. As it happens my PSA fell a little but trying to get a simple blood test was very difficult - all the hospitals I called wanted me to have a consultation as well as a blood test. I explained to each of them that I had already been diagnosed and didn't need a consultation but it wouldn't wash.

    I ended up at the Bangkok Hospital in Pattaya where I had the test and a sort of mini consultation by way of a compromise. Even then, the doctor there tried to 'sell' me some extra services but soon gave up when he could see he was on to a loser. I have since been given the name of a clinic that would have done the blood test only.

    Its a very different experience when its all about the cash - just bear that in mind.

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    I need Certified Medicals every two years, last one I got was at Bumrungrad International in Bangkok (not too far from Nana) a far as I know the only Doctor in TH authorized to do the one I need is at that Hospital, they will certainly do over 50's check ups but no idea of the price, the one I got was half the price I normally pay in the UK.
    Lots of Arabs / Middle Easterners use the Hospital which if you have not been is like a 5 star hotel.
    My Cert's ran out, but I wont need one until March 2019.
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    Yeah I need a medical for work every two years but its only a basic one just so they know you are not going to keel over as soon as your at work lol
    This is more for me....as I/we are not getting any younger, having done a bit of research I have found a few places doing the type of stuff I am after

    https://www.samitivejhospitals.com/e...s/checkup-svh/
    https://www.bumrungrad.com/en/health...ck-up-packages
    https://www.thailandstarterkit.com/h...ck-up-bangkok/
    https://www.bnhhospital.com/packages...ogrammes-2018/

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    Do they provide a printed (not hand written) report in English and explain test results and readings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big AL View Post
    Do they provide a printed (not hand written) report in English and explain test results and readings?
    I couldnt tell you, but as and when I use one I will update on here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big AL View Post
    Do they provide a printed (not hand written) report in English and explain test results and readings?
    The ones I have had have been, The Certificate is a " Must Be " in English, with a separate document explaining the results including blood and urine tests etc...
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    I had blood taken recently (NHS), would they run tests for everything automatically?
    I'm wondering if I should get my prostrate checked but as I've had a blood test would that have shown anything up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marshall View Post
    I had blood taken recently (NHS), would they run tests for everything automatically?
    No, there are literally thousands of things that blood can be tested for. The only things that are likely to be tested are:

    a). In the case of a specific health problem - things connected with that problem.

    b). In the case of an age related check up - PSA (prostate), diabetes, a couple of others that I can't remember and anything your GP/Consultant has asked for (this also varies from doctor to doctor).

    Basically, its just about impossible to get tested for everything - there are norms that are tested for in a health check but they are confined to either age related common problems or connected to a specific health complaint.

    Having the disease myself I would recommend all guys over 40 get their PSA tested regularly. A lot of doctors would disagree with me but the same doctors would also agree that had my PSA been checked earlier, I wouldn't be where I am now.

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    Thanks for the detailed answer Flip.
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    Marshal because I am diabetic I have blood tests every 6 months and always ask for a PSA its not 100 % but knowing before is useful it wants to be no higher than 4. Friend of 70 years recently asked for the test and was asked what he wanted for. If it had been me I would have gone loopy
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    Quote Originally Posted by melnathan View Post
    it wants to be no higher than 4.
    4? a figure I can only dream of . 189 on diagnosis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip View Post
    I can't recommend anywhere in particular but I would say - have a clear idea of what you want before you go. I've had some experience of private hospitals in Thailand and it took me a while to get used to the differences between them and the state hospitals in the UK that I'm used to.

    You have to be careful when the 'selling starts', you may be offered things you don't really need and conversely you may be discouraged from certain tests because that particular hospital doesn't have the facilities. You may already be used to private medical care but if you're not, its a different ball game.

    Just an example. In 2015 I was due to fly out to Thailand for a month just as I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer. I was in the middle of investigations as to the extent of the disease but I refused to cancel my plans. I had an agreement with my doctor that I would have my blood tested 2 weeks into my trip and if my PSA had risen significantly I would return to the UK. As it happens my PSA fell a little but trying to get a simple blood test was very difficult - all the hospitals I called wanted me to have a consultation as well as a blood test. I explained to each of them that I had already been diagnosed and didn't need a consultation but it wouldn't wash.

    I ended up at the Bangkok Hospital in Pattaya where I had the test and a sort of mini consultation by way of a compromise. Even then, the doctor there tried to 'sell' me some extra services but soon gave up when he could see he was on to a loser. I have since been given the name of a clinic that would have done the blood test only.

    Its a very different experience when its all about the cash - just bear that in mind.
    Doesnt going whilst under investigations invalidate any insurance cover or just removes coverage for the specified illness ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strawman View Post
    Doesnt going whilst under investigations invalidate any insurance cover or just removes coverage for the specified illness ??
    No idea and frankly, much the same as then, I don't care. I will not let this disease ruin my life.

    I have enquired about insurance since and both of the companies I rang that claimed to be offering insurance for those with existing conditions were, in my opinion, crooks who prey on people in difficult circumstances. Clearly they cannot be expected to cover any existing conditions but I don't see how they can justify charging over double the 'going rate'. Yes there can be complications arising from the existing condition but any expert opinion should be able to determine that and they would also not be covered. I don't see how a person with one illness is any more likely to get an unrelated condition or be any more at risk of theft or accident so what is the justification for the high premiums?

    As things stand, with the amount of trips I make and the prices quoted, I not longer see it making financial sense/affordable to have insurance and therefore don't take it out. There could be problems ahead though - a lot of talk in the Thai press about making medical insurance compulsory for tourists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip View Post
    As things stand, with the amount of trips I make and the prices quoted, I not longer see it making financial sense/affordable to have insurance and therefore don't take it out. There could be problems ahead though - a lot of talk in the Thai press about making medical insurance compulsory for tourists.

    I've thought about not bothering to, but then I read about someone uninsured who has an accident and has to find tens of thousands of pounds to be flown home.
    When taking out insurance I worry the company will find any excuse not to pay out as I read this happens a lot to, my last insurance cover had so many exclusions I didn't see how it was worth taking out.
    I guess this is why you should always pay a bit extra and go with a reputable company - there's less chance of problems if you need to make a claim.
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    Going without coverage is fine if you have fairly instant access to say £100,000 minimum but going without and leaving yourself open to a nightmare scenario is selfish if you have family subsequently having to bail you out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strawman View Post
    Going without coverage is fine if you have fairly instant access to say £100,000 minimum but going without and leaving yourself open to a nightmare scenario is selfish if you have family subsequently having to bail you out
    That's a rather pompous statement and I don't know where you get your figures from.

    I realise that you don't know my situation but everyone has their problems and I have some particularly serious ones. I bought my house over 4 years ago and around a year later was diagnosed with advanced cancer. Because of that its is hard for me to obtain insurance full stop and when I can find it, the price is outrageous. I was married to a Thai girl but that didn't work out and we divorced last year. I do not expect to be able to enjoy my normal retirement so plan to retire early and live at my house in Thailand until I become too ill to stay on my own - at which point I will return to the UK. With that in mind I began a programme of refurbishment last year. I made the mistake of not being there when the contractors started although I did have a close friend relaying messages and photos to me in the UK. Nevertheless, the contractor made a total mess of things and I had to fire them. I was also having problems with my hip which got progressively worse and a replacement was planned for this May. I went back to Thailand in March, arranged for a new contractor to start this September as following the hip replacement I was not allowed to fly until August. August is crazy flight price time - hence my trip in September.

    My house in Thailand is in a thousand bits - what would you do? Try to sell it like that and forget moving to Thailand? I wouldn't do that anyway but I can tell you now that its difficult enough to sell a secondhand home in Thailand - never mind one that's half way through a renovation.

    With the house finished, I at least stand a chance of selling it should my health deteriorate quickly or it could be left with an agent to sell. What I'm actually trying to do is to be as unselfish as I can by tidying as much up as possible should the worst happen. Can you imagine how difficult it would be for my family in the UK to finish my house and sell it if I wasn't around? They couldn't even drive to my house, have no connections and don't speak Thai. The chances are they would end up losing it so that would mean them losing £60k - £70k of their inheritance.

    Nobody in my family would be faced with any expense if anything happened to me whilst I'm away in Thailand but fire away, call me as selfish as you like - I will be moving to Thailand - insurance or not. In Thailand I have a social life, in the UK I just rot - there may be a slim chance of me having an accident or something in Thailand but that's a chance I'm willing to take. Of course I'd feel happier with insurance but that's a non-starter.

    In my circumstances, I guess you think I should stay in the UK? I may have 1 year, I may have 5 years. I could even have 10 but that's doubtful. I'll be damned if I'm going to sit in my house in the UK for as long as I've got and just rot away!

    Maybe I'm not as selfish as you think.

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    Well said Flip, people are too quick to jump to conclusions, better to know all the facts or not make rash comments, there are a couple on here doing that now and it grates me and said culprits have not been here long...not that i am an old sweat lol

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    Anyway back to the subject....
    I have also found this

    https://www.acs-ami.com/en/lps/expat...n&utm_term=tsk

    I have been in touch with them and it seems fine, has anyone had dealings with them.
    I am in the process of getting some medical paperwork from the UK to prove a few things then I will take it out (99% sure anyway)
    They do a lifetime policy and one which you can have till you are 75 (if i remember correctly)
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