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    Decided to Retire to Thailand or at least give it ago. I have sold the house STC so will have plenty of funds until I can take my pensions at 55. Currently 52.

    1) My plan is to apply for an "O" visa on the basis of marriage to a Thai citizen. I will do this through the Thai embassy in London by post. I am self employed so have income from various sources, cash, paypal, cheque etc. This is shown on my bank statements.

    2) We have already have a house in Thailand, which my wife will need to be added to the house book, not sure if they can add me on a type O visa ?

    3) Hunt around for a bank which will open a fixed deposit account asap so I can add the required 800k for a retirement visa. Allowing the money to be seasoned

    4) Apply for the UK police record/clearance and also have Thai doctor fill in the medical record.

    5) Apply for the Retirement visa 30 days before the O finishes

    If the timings do not work I presume I can extend the O visa based on marriage but I will not have any income but will be feeding my current account from my savings account.

    Does anyone foresee any problems here ?

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    2. You can never be added to the blue Tabian Ban that Thai are listed on. If you really wish you can get a yellow tabian ban for non Thais

    3. The 800K only needs to be in a Thai account for two months and a day, so maybe a bit premature to put it in now.

    I'm also 52 and have been extending my Non-O for eight years. Costs 1900 baht per year.

    Best of luck, this is a great place to be!

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    If the visa is based on being married to a thai citizen then you only need 400,000 in an account which can accessed readily.
    There is a lot more paperwork to do opposed to doing a retirement visa. The retirement visa is far easier and simple you just need 800,000 in the bank.

    Most definately get your self a yellow book, be prepared for a fight to get it, but don't cause one. Each amphur has its own way of doing the yellow book. Just make a trip to the local office and ask what they require and just do it. You could be in an area that does it easily without fuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan View Post
    4) Apply for the UK police record/clearance and also have Thai doctor fill in the medical record.
    Thai Doctor? Rules might have changed, but when I got my AO in London, they wanted a report from my GP confirming I was a disease free zone.
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    a non 'O' multi/single entry is available from London Thai embassy no financials, police report or medical forms required. 90 day permission to stay stamp given on each entry into Thailand

    a non 'O''A' which gives a 1 year permission to stay stamp and is good for a 2 year stay in Thailand, subect to a fresh entry just prior to the expiry date of the actual visa, and requires 90 day address reports at local immigration, does require financials, police report and medical forms,again available from London Thai embassy

    regardless of entry type a form tm30 will/may be required in Thailand

    400,00 married/800,00 retirement, for 1 yeay extension of stay has to be in Thai bank in own name only

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    Things are moving on we arrived in Thailand on the 20th February. After recovering from jet lag and "done" the family rounds we have started working towards the visa. First off we checked with three different banks all stated they either want to see a job offer or a "guaranteed" copy of my passport. "guaranteed" meaning counter signed copy and stamped as true copy from the British Embassy. Booked an online appointment last week for today 5th March 8am to try and beat the traffic from Kou Bhun road. In and out of the embassy in 20 minutes with stamped authorised copy.
    We also checked with the local Amphor about adding me to a house book, they required a stamped copy of my passport with the UK embassy stamp being legalised by the ministry of foreign affairs. We did get collard by a translation tout who was right at the top of the stairs in the MFA building level 3 . We did not realise at first, as we thought he was employed by the MFA. It was when he left to get the translation done that a Thai lady pointed this out to us. But to be honest the cost was 400 baht or a tenner which saved us a lot of messing around getting the right forms, filling them in and getting the translation done. Back on Thursday to collect the paperwork.
    So todays costs
    1000 baht Taxi 6am -3pm - Travel and waiting and British Embassy, MFA and two viewings of condos near Bang Bua Thong.
    1075 baht British Embassy
    400 baht Translator Service at MFA
    400 baht Thai MFA Stamping cost
    Total 9 Hours
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan View Post
    First off we checked with three different banks all stated they either want to see a job offer or a "guaranteed" copy of my passport. "guaranteed" meaning counter signed copy and stamped as true copy from the British Embassy.
    Total 9 Hours
    That's a new one on me but they also require a certified copy of your passport for an Affirmation of Freedom to Marry these days too. Quite why is beyond me, given that all passports are in both the language of the country of origin and in English - another layer of bureaucracy!

    I wasn't aware that a foreigner could be added to a Thai Tabien Baan - I know we can have a yellow one for a property that we occupy but not this....... interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip View Post
    I wasn't aware that a foreigner could be added to a Thai Tabien Baan - I know we can have a yellow one for a property that we occupy but not this....... interesting.
    You can't. Not in the blue book anyway. You get a yellow book all to yourself
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    Yep Sorry should of stated a yellow one for the Tabien Baan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip View Post
    I wasn't aware that a foreigner could be added to a Thai Tabien Baan - I know we can have a yellow one for a property that we occupy but not this....... interesting.
    I don't think many of us knew too


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    [QUOTE=Ivan;276380]Decided to Retire to Thailand or at least give it ago. I have sold the house STC so will have plenty of funds until I can take my pensions at 55. Currently 52.

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    I would of rented my house out or buy a small flat, just incase I've got something to fall back on.
    Anyway, good luck in Thailand.



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    Collected the legalised copy of my passport from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs this morning. Took longer parking and getting out the carpark than actually collecting it.
    Went to the Amphor to see if this was enough for the yellow book, as expected they need the main property holder to sign (step daughter) already explained this to the wife but she wanted to try anyway.
    Tried Bangkok Bank in bang Bua Thong unfortunately the lady who served us was at a lose, so called head office who never answered. Over one hour wasted so we left, stopped at the Krung Thai Bang and bingo they went through the paperwork legalised copy of passport, marriage certificate and wife's ID card. The only additional hurdle they said the wife had to open an account too. No problem except the time taken another two hours but we both left with shiny new ATM cards and passbooks. I also have access to their mobile AP. Also we were given the details required for international transfers IBAN, SWIFT code and Bank address in English. So top marks to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan View Post
    Went to the Amphor to see if this was enough for the yellow book, as expected they need the main property holder to sign (step daughter)
    It is not actually a requirement - you can get her to sign a power of attorney specific to that purpose - but would I argue with an Amphur manager on that?............no way .

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    Things are moving along but at a Thai pace. House is just about finished but a bit of snagging and some finishing to be done. Furniture arrived from England on Monday so it feels like home now. Below is what has happened so far, a few tips a few reviews or experiences.
    • Three-month visa from Thai Embassy in London was quick and easy, all by post.
    • Shipping we used Seven Seas who did a good job. No problems with customs and stored the move cube until the house was ready. Had to change dates three times and did not charge for extra storage.
    • Opening as bank account is a pain, most banks we tried wanted a work permit or a legalised copy of my passport. So, a trip to the British Embassy is required, translation and a visit to the Thai Ministry of Foreign affairs, allow a day to do this and also time the next day to pick up the legalised document. At the Ministry we used a Translation Tout, cost us 200 baht more, but he checked everything did the translation and escorted us to the right queue etc.
    • Thai builders as mixed bag, our electrician was good and installed a decent fuse box, RCD and proper earth and three pin sockets. Painter was good too; other builders were a mixed bag including the manager. My wife spent every day on site to make sure every thing was going ok. The wife also sacked two builders or told the manager she did not want them to come back. England has a problem with finding decent plumbers but Thailand???
    • Getting reviews on products is not so easy. I am one of these nerds who like to do their research before splashing my cash. I can recommend Mitsubishi for air con, very quiet and cools quickly. Samsung for washing machines. For building renovation supplies try Thai Watsudo cheaper than Homepro.
    • Homepro is not bad, but it takes ages to buy anything, it took about 40 minutes to buy three flat pack wardrobes a table and an office chair. Delivery details including drawing a map. The saving grace is when the flat pack furniture arrives, they build it for you.
    • I have also found that the smaller shops and dealers give better service so far.
    • Lazada has also been very reliable but at the moment I have only ordered small items.
    • Fibre internet I have opted for AIS rather than True, lots of threads on internet but AIS seems to come slightly ahead of True. Also, they have HBO with GOT and more English language channels. Waiting for them to reply to my request or the wife to call them!
    • My three-month visa runs out in May. We did try to find the immigration office for Bang Bua Thong/Nonthaburi but was told it has moved. However, I need to return to the UK in May to visit my father’s grave, who unfortunately died the day we flew out to Thailand. So not sure at the moment to make a one-year visa in Thailand or wait till I return to the UK.
    But so far is going well albeit at a Thai pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan View Post
    Also, they have HBO with GOT and more English language channels.
    Have you thought about getting an Android box? As long as you have a good internet speed then you will be able to get all sorts of TV Shows and Movies.
    I'm ONE of the 52%

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    AIS has been installed and the quality is good, caught up on GOT and nearly finished S2 of Westworld. However the AIS box does not have on demand for Thai soaps. The wife prefers the Roku with Malimar TV as she could catch up on the soaps when she wanted too. Malimar/DooTV does not have a licence for Thailand. Will look at an Android box or media streamer.

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    "My three-month visa runs out in May. We did try to find the immigration office for Bang Bua Thong/Nonthaburi but was told it has moved. However, I need to return to the UK in May to visit my father’s grave, who unfortunately died the day we flew out to Thailand. So not sure at the moment to make a one-year visa in Thailand or wait till I return to the UK"

    According to post number 6 you arrived 20th February so your permit to stay will run out about 20 May. If you planned to apply for an extension due to mariage then you will be too late as it takes about a month to be approved. If you want to apply for an extension due to retirement then you still have time as this takes just a couple of hours.
    In any case, did you get a TM 30 when yoy arrived? Many offices are enforcing this rule, and you could be fined up to 2000 baht for not having it. Even though it is the responsibilty of the owner of the property to report, you as the foreigner will have to pay the fine.
    http://nonthaburi.immigration.go.th/..._of_residence/
    http://nonthaburi.immigration.go.th/en/contact/

    You cannot make a one year visa in Thailand, just an extension of stay.
    You will need another non-O visa from UK to start the process again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave and Tia View Post
    then you will be too late as it takes about a month to be approved.
    'Under approval' for 30 days means that the immigration officer stamps a new 'permitted to stay' stamp in your passport (30 days from when you applied) and when you go back for the extension, you get the remaining 11 months.
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    Thank you for your replies. Probably make another three months in the UK when I return. It was very quick. Will then give me time to check with local requirements and also make sure I am on a TM30.

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    Hope everything goes well for you.

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