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    Default Maybe explains the lack of progress on Brexit

    Negotiators for EU Exit
    Negotiators for EU Exit £28,604 - £31,920 (National) or £31,916 - £35,620 (London) Grade HEO Two-year fixed-term contract with the potential for extension or permanency Location: London, Bristol ..



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    It's actually quite frightening, as how many HEO's will have the negotiating skills necessary? Okay, it's only in a specific area which they might have expertise in, but the negotiating skills? Doubtful.

    On a personal note, I left the civil service as an HEO in 1993 to join local government. I doubt that in the civil service I would have got much further, so looking at those pay grades, I can honestly say I made the right decision to move on!

    Edit - having now looked at the JD's and person specs, there's lot's of right-on motivational language and clearly a lot of flexibility will be needed, I'd say the grade this is being advertised at doesn't really represent the level of responsibility and expertise they are seeking, so in short, I agree with Ash.
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    The role in the OP is a very junior position, and is a position post-Brexit to assist Defra in developing its position when negotiating the permanent deals after Brexit.
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    Clicking on the job advert even the senior roles pay 50-60K its hardly going to attract the brightest and best especially as a shortish fixed term contract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    The role in the OP is a very junior position, and is a position post-Brexit to assist Defra in developing its position when negotiating the permanent deals after Brexit.
    Then they might have been better off seeking suitably qualified staff to work on this position as a temporary assignment, or as it was known in my day, 'detached duty' and back-fill instead. We obviously have different interpretations of 'junior position'!
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