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    Hello everyone. This is my first post on this forum however I have sat in the back ground now for a month or 2 reading posts and trying to gain the information on the correct and hopefully successful way to apply for a uk visitors visa.

    What I am hoping is that one of you very knowledgeable people will will take the time and type a step by step process for me and highlight any do’s and dont’s also how long it takes to make the application and receive the answer, actually being totally honest I need all the relevant information from start to finish. It’s a lot for me to ask from you I know but as the saying goes if you don’t ask ..................

    The person requiring the visa speaks very little English (is this an issue for a visitors visa?) She is currently unemployed and lives alone so no one to look after (mentioned this as I read people say they look after someone as a reason to return to Thailand) Saying this what other reason could she use as her reason to return ??? Which she really does want to by the way.

    I own my own home in the UK and have a decent job with a good wage so I would be covering all costs and allowing her to stay at my home.

    So I will now keep my fingers crossed and hope that someone will reply and guide me on the process of this from start to finish and whether this is actually a realistic option or just wishful thinking. Thank you in advance and please don’t hold back !!!

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    Welcome to the forum.
    Fortunately my visa issues ere sorted in an era that it was relatively easy. Someone will come along and point you to a thread that will cover the basics.
    You state 'person'. Is it a girlfriend (in other words a relationship) or simply a friend?
    These things are relevant
    You are correct; reason to return is paramount and how they decide on this is purely how the immigration officer reads the application. Human nature dictates that one person can read it one way etc etc.
    Judging others before you have met isn't a wise option.

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    Yes it is the girlfriend, she and I really want her to visit the Uk but it seems like a minefield getting it organised

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    Length of time together ,how long you have known her proof of relationship ,but things have changed since i did mine ie i do believe they do not want photos.
    I myself feel as well as the funding this is the most important bit of info they need a 3 week holiday to Thailand as time spent with your lady is not going to cut it with the ECO .
    PS welcome to the community mustbemad

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    Ok so to add some more information. We have been together for almost a year however I have only visited her twice (3 weeks each time) and will be visiting again this November. I understand that proof of relationship is a big issue but I don’t want to start adding fibs in any application. I want to be totally honest about everything as things have a habit of biting you on the bum. I am really looking for a step by step process of this and also if it could be feasible for her to return to the Uk with me in November ? What are the time scales, when should I start making the application how and where do I make the application, does she need to do a crash course on English language will she be interviewed in English. I have read so many different posts stating conflicting things and like I say I am a complete novice at this, I have no idea what’s ever on the process or the expected out come but obviously I would like it to be successful. Thank you for taking the time to reply Ian and Samsung all and any advice is much appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustbemad View Post
    Ok so to add some more information. We have been together for almost a year however I have only visited her twice (3 weeks each time) and will be visiting again this November. I understand that proof of relationship is a big issue but I don’t want to start adding fibs in any application. I want to be totally honest about everything as things have a habit of biting you on the bum. I am really looking for a step by step process of this and also if it could be feasible for her to return to the Uk with me in November ? What are the time scales, when should I start making the application how and where do I make the application, does she need to do a crash course on English language will she be interviewed in English. I have read so many different posts stating conflicting things and like I say I am a complete novice at this, I have no idea what’s ever on the process or the expected out come but obviously I would like it to be successful. Thank you for taking the time to reply Ian and Samsung all and any advice is much appreciated
    In your shoes I would suggest that you leave the application until after you have visited in November. In the meantime, your GF needs to get a job and get a few months work under her belt before she applies. Good English is not a requirement for a visit visa. There is no interview but UKVI may call her to confirm any of the details that are not clear to them. It's fine if she speaks in Thai. She will also need to get a letter from her employer.

    If you put a decent application together including all of the information they need, they won’t need to call.

    For a visit visa you will need to prove you are in a relationship. Typically, hotel or flight bookings taken together, skype, email or Whatsapp logs. You need to show that you can fund the trip and that you can provide accommodation for her when she comes to the UK. The final requirement is to show that she will return to Thailand at the end of the trip. That's the difficult one. You say she is currently unemployed and lives alone. How does she live and pay for food, rent etc?

    I met my wife in Thailand in early 2015, visited her a couple of times more over the next few months and then she applied for her first VV. We married the following June and it was our third anniversary a few weeks ago. Five visas later she will be on her last in 28 months time. It is possible and you need to approach each visa the same as you did the first by providing all of the information that is required for each visa.

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    She does not need a job for a visit visa.

    Use your relationship as her main reason to return ie: You wouldn't jeopardise your future together.
    If you're offended by any assistance I give, it says far more about you than it does me.

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    Very sound advice thank you. Regarding her financial status she is between jobs as the saying goes, she works in the factories around Bangkok but has been promised a new start in some jewelleries factory which is currently relocating to bigger premises and for the last 3 months I have been sending her around 8000 bahts a month. After my November visit I will return again in March and was thinking of going along the lines of her coming to the uk for 3 weeks in March and returning with me to Thailand then, would this count as a good enough reason for returning to Thailand? The fact we would fly together ? She isn’t too keen on flying alone but I have told her that as she can only visit for 3 weeks max this is the only viable option.

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    I have just seen the last post and it's not sound advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by -Keith- View Post
    She does not need a job for a visit visa.

    Use your relationship as her main reason to return ie: You wouldn't jeopardise your future together.
    She does not need a job visit visa but it helps a lot. Without knowing how she pays for things without a job I hope she's not financed by the OP. In most cases that can be detrimental to getting a visit visa to the UK because her source of funds is living in the UK. Why would she go home to Thailand when her money supply is in the UK?

    Their relationship after two three week trips to Thailand in a single year are unlikely to be sufficient to get a successful visit visa.

    Why do you think that saying you won't want to jeopardise their future together will led to a successful application? It is very unlikely. Everybody trots out the same mantra on every visa application.

    It is not a reason to return. Having kids are not a reason to return. Owning a car or motorbike are not reason to return. Owning a house or land can contribute to reasons to return as can looking after an old or infirm mother/father/grandmother but the most common reason to return is a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Keith- View Post
    She does not need a job for a visit visa.

    Use your relationship as her main reason to return ie: You wouldn't jeopardise your future together.
    You say she doesn’t need a job yet I have just been advised that she needs a few months employment under her belt ? I understand every application situation is different but with so many different opinions makes it hard to know truth from fiction no offence intended

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    She does not need a job visit visa but it helps a lot. Without knowing how she pays for things without a job I hope she's not financed by the OP. In most cases that can be detrimental to getting a visit visa to the UK because her source of funds is living in the UK. Why would she go home to Thailand when her money supply is in the UK?

    Makes sense to me. She does have family but she doesn’t look after them so I can’t use that as a reason to apply. Hopefully she will start this new job soon which will give her the months of employment and maybe the boss will give her some sort of letter saying she can take leave and they will keep her job for her return and together with flying back with me I’m beginning to hope that this might cover her reason for returning .

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    I'm not sure how long ago Keith's wife/partner applied for a VV but your relationship is not a reason to return and everybody, but everybody, trots out the same old line about not wanting to jeopardise future visas.

    You sending her money to live on when she has no other form of income will almost certainly lead to a visa refusal. I’ll say it again. A job is the most common reason to return.

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    Noted and as she tells me she wants to find another job this shouldn’t be an issue.

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    It is not the case that sending money to your partner will result in a refusal I did and I managed to get one although I was refused initially and reapplied immediately.i was refused after one visit on the grounds of insufficient evidence of a relationship and reason to return. We added a letter from employer and sent every bit of social media and every pic of us together including pics of Skype conversations.

    In in terms of process the longer the holiday the more suspicious they are try a week rather than three. You will be issued a six month visit visa anyway so if you then decide to use it for three weeks it won’t be an issue. I have friend who’s partner stopped three months and had no problem with later visa apps.

    there is an online form to complete and in addition you will need to create evidence to support your application. This will include evidence of relationship, six months of sponsor bank statements, I sent pay slips as well, copies of passport, and copies of her parents ID cards, plus evidence of where she will stay and that there is space for her there, finally evidence of reason to return ( be prepared to reapply if refused on this ground). Her employment is the best evidence for this be very careful as when you send her bank statements they will look for unexplained sums of money into the account so don’t just send a lump sum to show she can afford the trip but send money at regular intervals to achieve this. A budget and itinerary

    Finally perseve if at first you don’t succeed read the refusal reasons and address them and you will be successful.

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    Over the years many folks on this forum have successfully used their relationship as the primary reason to return.
    If you're offended by any assistance I give, it says far more about you than it does me.

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    It's down to whoever is issuing the visa as to how they interpret things. For example above it's argued having a job for a few months is necessary. But in reality, what boss (especially in Thailand) would allow someone to take 3 weeks off work after only being in a job for a matter of weeks/months? Just pointing out different people read scenarios differently to others.
    If you are going to apply for the VV regardless of the situation she is in at the time, working or not, then just be honest and tell it how it is. If she's not working and you are supporting her financially then say so because that's how it is. Just back up every thing you say with hard evidence like bank transfers/statements to show you are supporting her and the figures you are giving match up.
    If she applies and it's refused it's not the end of the world and at least it will give you the chance to address what they decide in another future visit visa

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    Thank you all who replied to my post, I have gathered some good and useful information/advice. But I really need a step by step run down on the process of applying for a visitors visa as I know next to nothing about this. As I find at the moment I need to go on line and fill in a form, gather lots of evidence regarding the proof of our relationship (photographs not required) proof of my income homeownership, proof of monies I have sent to her, provide a statement that I will fund her visit to the Uk and that she will stay at my home rent free and also provide some sort of evidence that she will willingly return to Thailand. Does anyone think that if she was planning to return on the same flight that I would go to Thailand on in March this is reason enough for her to return???

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    Totally disagree Rasg my wife did not have a job and used reason to return as she knows the law and does not want to jeopardize the relationship.
    and that was the advice i found on here and was granted a visitor visa .
    As i have stated before its a rhetorical question no correct or wrong answer just a question designed to produce a response .
    if you send your partner money then as others have said back this up by showing it leaving your account and hitting hers .
    My advice would be get the next trip done and dusted and yes i would book travel tickets in yours and partners name returning to Thailand after her visit and submit them this would only strengthen your application .
    I see no problem with this time frame .
    I also sent every flight i had been to Thailand flights me and my now wife booked while in Thailand every hotel booking i had made in both names ,Facebook chats ,emails and line message app ,also i got o2 to send me every text and phone call cost me £10 to get this info as it was cheaper to use pay as you go to contact her .
    In most cases that can be detrimental to getting a visit visa to the UK because her source of funds is living in the UK. Why would she go home to Thailand when her money supply is in the UK?
    this does not make sense how long do you think before the hit squad came knocking on her source of money door ?
    fingerprints will be taken so what future is there in UK aside from working in some take away on peanuts ,

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    My advice would be get the next trip done and dusted and yes i would book travel tickets in yours and partners name returning to Thailand after her visit and submit them this would only strengthen your application .

    so you suggest I book the flight tickets prior to applying for the visa ? I can see that this would possibly make the case stronger but without sounding tight fisted is this necessary as my concern would be the lose of money if the visa was not granted, we all know to adapt change flights costs just as much as booking new flights, I was actually not going to book any flights until her visa was accepted. Like I have previously stated I am very novice at this so maybe I have it wrong here and I do need the flights booked before applying? More advise needed on this please. Thanks again for your time Samsung

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    Totally disagree Rasg my wife did not have a job and used reason to return as she knows the law and does not want to jeopardize the relationship.
    and that was the advice i found on here and was granted a visitor visa .

    In most cases that can be detrimental to getting a visit visa to the UK because her source of funds is living in the UK. Why would she go home to Thailand when her money supply is in the UK?

    this does not make sense how long do you think before the hit squad came knocking on her source of money door ?
    fingerprints will be taken so what future is there in UK aside from working in some take away on peanuts ,
    I'm surprised you disagree and my question would be how long ago your wife applied for a VV?

    It seems that you had your eyes closed for the last couple of years with all of the visit visa refusals that happen where the sponsor is sending money to his new girlfriend in Thailand.

    We will have to agree to disagree and wait for others to chip in.

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    UKVI specifically say that you should not book tickets before receiving a visa.

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    It was a few years ago i think 3-4 weeks was put on the application .Rasg
    You said you was going to return with her so you had penciled that trip in maybe just book your own and put that that through with footnote saying if the visa was a positive outcome then your partner would be returning with you on these dates .
    I just think if the relationship is genuine and lengthy and the source of funds are there for the visit as well as accommodation and being your partner has no serious convictions the ECO would have a difficult time refusing .
    on a footnote the last visit visa i did was some 6 years ago so things do change with regards to visas changes usually the end result is how to extract more coin from you self.

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