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    RSS Feed TM30: The form getting expats in Thailand into a bureaucratic tangle

    Foreign workers now have to check in with officials every time they leave home for more than a day.

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    Not just workers ANY visitors to Thailand as well. If you go somewhere for more than 24 hours you have to register where you are and then register again when you return home/hotel/condo/apartment/room.

    I understand why they are doing it, to keep track off where everyone is and hopefully cut down on criminal activity.
    What they don't get is that the criminal fraternity will just ignore this and it is the law abiding expat/visitor that is going to suffer the pain (such as it will be).
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    What happens if you have a yellow house book?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmbo60 View Post
    What happens if you have a yellow house book?
    Makes no difference having a yellow house-book or Pink ID card , I ve just been to Chaengwattana Immigration today (30 AUG) we arrived into BKK at around 1 am got home went to bed, got up went with Mrs to Register me with TM 30. (Mrs responsibility)
    She applied online 31 May, got a link to confirm everything, clicked the link and they were meant to send a password to complete everything, password never arrived, just after I received my latest Non - Imm O extension I went abroad, came back and she was still waiting for the password and the online account was "Pending" so she posted off the paperwork (TM 30) with a SAE, we have been away about a month (different trip but this one together) but this morning nothing in the mail from Immigration, so we deiced to go in person to get everything sorted out, she had phoned them before we went traveling about the password etc, they said to go in person,so today she politely but firmly wanted the account online operational, now it is and also downloaded the App to her phone, she also wanted things cleared up about the posting and the form from today.
    Just to be clear the TM 30 is the responsibility of the main person in the Apt - Condo - Guesthouse etc IE if I went to stay at my Mother-in-Laws she would be responsible for the TM 30 and I would be responsible for a TM 28. As Gary writes this comes into play if more than 24 hours away from the registered address.
    But my understanding is (using MIL as an example) upon returning from MILs , Mrs would nt need to fill another TM 30, but I would need to fill in a TM 28 but this is a grey area. Im off to the F1 GP next month in SG, so will see what happens when the Immigration Intranet gets tested out.
    When we went to get the Intranet / Password up and running there was quite a few people having the exact same problem. This is a short version of 30 AUG the real one is a comedy of errors / a saga. Mrs view is : Lack of training, intranet that does nt work, bad for businesses, bad for TH, difficult to disagree.
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    Couldn't they just make carrying a mobile phone compulsory and track the bloody thing, sounds like living in Thailand is becoming a bit of a chore ?

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    Not only living but visiting as well. The new 60 day online visa application is a nightmare compared to what was required on the old paper form. Too much info required just for a short stay and with the exchange rate as well I may well have booked my last trip to LOS (for a considerable time at least) next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prikphet View Post
    Couldn't they just make carrying a mobile phone compulsory and track the bloody thing, sounds like living in Thailand is becoming a bit of a chore ?
    100% Correct
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary & Nok View Post
    What they don't get is that the criminal fraternity will just ignore this and it is the law abiding expat/visitor that is going to suffer the pain (such as it will be).
    Yes exactly !!

    I haven't had to worry previously because we always stayed in hotels when we went. But now my wife has a house in her name we stay there, so by law she has to do a TM30. We didn't bother last time and probably won't again. I'm sure I saw a leaflet from immigration that said it is only necessary if staying in Thailand for more than 30 days and if so that is their practical application of that law. Also saw something that said it doesn't apply yo tourist visas or visa-exempt entries. Not so sure about that one. It is all so murky. If you don't have to go to immigration for any reason then you are unlikely to have an issue.

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    I am planning/thinking of returning to work in Thailand next August but things like this and the ever-increasing stress ex-pats seem to be facing makes me edgy about doing so. When I first moved there, some 13 years ago I felt welcomed by the country. It seems as the years pass, the powers that are making it very clear that they will never accept foreigners calling Thailand their home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnet View Post
    I am planning/thinking of returning to work in Thailand next August but things like this and the ever-increasing stress ex-pats seem to be facing makes me edgy about doing so. When I first moved there, some 13 years ago I felt welcomed by the country. It seems as the years pass, the powers that are making it very clear that they will never accept foreigners calling Thailand their home.
    Yes it seems we are not welcome anymore, although no matter how difficult they make it they will always have to allow spouses of Thai citizens. I would hope. I love Thailand and its people, but if I didn't have a Thai wife I'd probably be looking at other options.

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    I read an article on Facebook (yes so take with a pinch of salt) but failing to fill in a TM30 will result in you being fined at the point of exit, i.e. airport when you leave, as they will have a record of all registered TM30's that they will be able to access.

    As I said pinch of salt.
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