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    now everyone immediately panics when they just have a runny nose and from this cough, they think that this is covid-19 ...

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    Not sure if I have mentioned this before but my neighbour told me a few days ago that her best friend's son went to one of these illegal raves in Wales. He is 33 and now on a ventilator so I guess we still have to worry about it. I think if you are young you are unlucky to be ill, but maybe if you get a big hit from a big and careless gathering ???
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    Last weekend a friend of my mothers died of Covid in hospital, she was 84 and had lived a good life, I see the current figures of 10 people a day dying of the virus and think I know one of those this week. I crashed her sons GPZ750R in the New Forest many years ago and so the death is strongly noted, rather than okay it's just another person that might have died anyway, no she certainly would have died anyway, even if she had reached 180. However she died alone and in a great degree of pain in hospital, luckily it didn't take too long.

    I also was working with someone today, who back in March lost his sense of smell and taste whilst on a stag holiday in Bucharest, didn't relate it to Covid because it was before lock down, but couldn't smell or taste coffee or whiskey and ginger and his taste and smell still not returned to normal , but luckily for him no other complications, especially as he has 2 young children and he's very good at his job.

    I would be interested to know who still thinks this virus is nothing to worry about and life should be carrying on as it was before lockdown?

    I have some neighbours who believe that this is the case, this would be their response:-
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    Quote Originally Posted by KhunIanB-UK View Post
    I have some neighbours who believe that this is the case, this would be their response:-
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    So, who is she? (looks like one anyway)

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    now everyone immediately panics when they just have a runny nose and from this cough, they think that this is covid-19 ...
    Cough: yes, this is one of the symptoms
    Runny nose: not a common symptom, so if you panic you probably believe in ghosts as well...

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    everyone believes in something, some in ghosts, others in God, others in themselves. Everyone chooses for himself what is closer to him

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    who is she?
    It was the neighbour that she would have stumbled across if she'd have carried on walking down the road. He's the one that was arrested and jailed at the end of last year and then arrested and jailed again earlier this year. The first arrest was the road shut off and armed response units called in. They have set up a drugs den across the road and it's a right little hot spot.

    The lady is a neighbour from down the road who was also a Covid denier, but has since come to her senses.

    Unfortunately there are still many more that still have not:-
    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...XTC?li=BBoPWjQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by KhunIanB-UK View Post
    Unfortunately there are still many more that still have not:-
    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...XTC?li=BBoPWjQ
    They're at it again I see, what a load of wally's, although I have to say any future coronavirus vaccines and the way vaccinations are rolled out do need serious debate (see back to post #978 from Sisaket) but the person (a 'professor') mentioned in the Mail report who said you can get multiple sclerosis is a disgrace to her profession.

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    the pandemic was announced on December 31, 2019, but there is still no vaccine, almost a year has passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariaUA View Post
    the pandemic was announced on December 31, 2019, but there is still no vaccine, almost a year has passed.
    11 March 2020 actually.
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    So a second wave of this virus is on it's way. Will the virus ever go away?

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    But began very quietly in China in October 2019
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    11 March 2020 actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickj1000 View Post
    But began very quietly in China in October 2019
    Probably before that actually and via some bat caves far away from Wuhan. But the slow to act WHO, under pressure from China, delayed in announcing the virus as a Pandemic until March.
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    The World Health Organization really announced a pandemic too late (

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    Quote Originally Posted by caller View Post
    Probably before that actually and via some bat caves far away from Wuhan. But the slow to act WHO, under pressure from China, delayed in announcing the virus as a Pandemic until March.
    Quote Originally Posted by MariaUA View Post
    The World Health Organization really announced a pandemic too late (
    What difference would it have made declaring it a ‘pandemic’ sooner? A new coronavirus disease causing severe respiratory symptoms was first identified and reported by WHO in December 2019.

    The new coronavirus was declared an epidemic well before 11 March (when it met the definition of and was declared a pandemic) with WHO warning from the outset this was a dangerous and virulent virus. I’m not following why declaring it a pandemic earlier would have made any difference to how the world might have dealt with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    I’m not following why declaring it a pandemic earlier would have made any difference to how the world might have dealt with it.
    No-one has claimed it would. I was merely correcting an error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sisaket View Post
    Mrs had this email yesterday from the Complementary Medical Association.
    ''Hello Mrs sisaket ,This is a quick email to remind you that the deadline for the UK Government’s consultation on vaccines is drawing to a close tomorrow night at 11.59pm (BST). As you will appreciate, the Government is planning to make some changes to current laws, in order to facilitate the rollout of a potential COVID-19 vaccine (AND potential flu vaccines!).

    These changes include alteration to The Human Medicines Regulations 2012 (HMRs) which will allow the fast-tracking rollout of mass vaccination using unregistered vaccines. In addition, it will also permit the drug companies (and other commercial entities) to advertise these vaccinations. Furthermore, the legislation will allow the administration of these vaccines by unqualified, non-health care individuals. Lastly, the drug companies will be protected from any law suits arising - should these vaccinations cause any harm or damage, whatsoever.

    We know that many of our Members have already responded to our call for action and have added their voices to this important consultation. But, if you have not yet had a chance to do so, please don’t delay.
    Just to reassure you, although the Government’s wording, as it appears on the intro page, is complex and even appears contradictory, the consultation itself, once you click through, is actually very straight forward, so please don’t be put off. The form itself is quite clear and we found that it was quick and easy to complete.
    Thank you for taking the time to read this message and thank you too for taking action on this hugely important matter.''
    Not sure I personally like the look of some of the wording I have highlighted in black.
    This is all very misleading and verging on misinformation. This is Operation Fear at play, any vaccine that will be made available to the British population will be tried, tested and SAFE! It will be authorised for use by the relevant UK authorities before it is allowed to be administered to the public. Brexit issues and the European Medicines Agency aside, a vaccine must be authorised for use by the UK after Brexit Day.

    Vaccines will be administered by vaccinators who are trained to administer vaccinations under the strict control and supervision of a medical practitioner. All vaccinators will be trained and shown to be competent via an NHS and PHE approved training programme to ensure patient safety.

    The immunity issue is very limited, and is not unusual in itself.
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    I want to know if it will be voluntary or compulsory? ...

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    In the UK it will be voluntary.
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    As for training its a simple injection most diabetics have to self inject and post operative patients inject after operations to prevent clotting. Vaccinations normally come in pre loaded syringes a monkey could be traiined to administer it.
    I hope its going to be voluntary but would expect serious pressure from government if it proved to work well
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    I thought the Russians would be busy tampering with elections this year , however some have been busy with a money spinner, creating a vaccine. This from Reuters:
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN26D0WY
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    Quote Originally Posted by ash View Post
    As for training its a simple injection most diabetics have to self inject and post operative patients inject after operations to prevent clotting. Vaccinations normally come in pre loaded syringes a monkey could be traiined to administer it.
    Those are subcutaneously adminstered, done them myself and it is straight forward.
    If its the same as a flu shot then its in a muscle usually at the top of the arm and it is possible to get it wrong and damage the muscle, also would need to be a bit of a contortionist to do it yourself.
    Had a nasty reaction to a pnemoccocal shot once in the arm.
    I will pass having a monkey do it thanks.

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