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    Flights still coming into the UK from virus hotspots i believe, madrid, italy, iran and china. This does not seem to make sense with the level of lockdown going on. Do these visitors have to quarantine themselves ?? Anybody know anything about this ? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickj1000 View Post
    Flights still coming into the UK from virus hotspots i believe, madrid, italy, iran and china. This does not seem to make sense with the level of lockdown going on. Do these visitors have to quarantine themselves ?? Anybody know anything about this ? Thanks
    Who said these flights entering the UK are visitors? These flights might just be for British nationals only, seeking to return home.

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    Indeed, what about those who have valid visas to work in the UK and have their lives ongoing? I agree caution should be essential but blocking people entirely must be reviewed.

    To put it into context, China, my country of work and residence first allowed people to self-isolate at home whilst being checked daily. This then changed to foreign nationals being taken to various hotels and charged about one thousand pounds, in advance, for a 14 day isolation. No outside deliveries allowed and three meals delivered daily in plastic containers charged on top. Two daily health checks. Large shopping outlets such as Walmart which I am happy to name and shame are banning foreign nationals from entering even if they display the health certificate displaying that quarantine has been completed. I am talking from experience as to what my colleagues have experienced this week. Others, still out of the country have visas expiring and no way of renewal. We are paying 2 x rent and fees and have no way of accessing our savings without paying hefty ATM fees. China does not offer online transfer facilities and it is notoriously difficult to transfer to other countries, even face-to-face. This week China banned all foreign nationals regardless of their reason to return.

    Yes, be careful but keep an open mind as to why people may need to fly. At present I can operate remotely at great expense but at some point my desire to return will become a need and that needs addressing not blanket bans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg / Pairin View Post
    Who said these flights entering the UK are visitors? These flights might just be for British nationals only, seeking to return home.
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    Fair enough, the other side of the story. I am in Thailand now and returning on the 7th of April but watching flights every day. Sounds horrendous what you have been through !

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    Indeed, what about those who have valid visas to work in the UK and have their lives ongoing? I agree caution should be essential but blocking people entirely must be reviewed.

    To put it into context, China, my country of work and residence first allowed people to self-isolate at home whilst being checked daily. This then changed to foreign nationals being taken to various hotels and charged about one thousand pounds, in advance, for a 14 day isolation. No outside deliveries allowed and three meals delivered daily in plastic containers charged on top. Two daily health checks. Large shopping outlets such as Walmart which I am happy to name and shame are banning foreign nationals from entering even if they display the health certificate displaying that quarantine has been completed. I am talking from experience as to what my colleagues have experienced this week. Others, still out of the country have visas expiring and no way of renewal. We are paying 2 x rent and fees and have no way of accessing our savings without paying hefty ATM fees. China does not offer online transfer facilities and it is notoriously difficult to transfer to other countries, even face-to-face. This week China banned all foreign nationals regardless of their reason to return.

    Yes, be careful but keep an open mind as to why people may need to fly. At present I can operate remotely at great expense but at some point my desire to return will become a need and that needs addressing not blanket bans.

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    Looks like that this covid 19 will be with us for sometime.

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    It will be with us potentially for eternity but noticeably until we get a vaccine. Rates may drop restrictions may be lifted but it will still be there waiting for us to lower our guard. Let us hope it does not mutate and we all have to through it again.

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    https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/18...er-coronavirus Chinese Cities start banning eating cats and dogs Years too late to do this. They let it go on despite the previous SARS. They are banning the trade and eating of wild animals as well from may 1st. Not seen an apology yet from the chinese government or an offer of financial help. I know they have tried to help with their science and sent some medicines abroad although some of their stuff has been ditched in the UK apparently because it is sub standard whatever that means. Personally I think any government looking at trading with China in the future needs to think very carefully about it what is allowed to come into our respective countries especially food items. When my Thai wife were in Hong Kong last year i was astounded to see how it had changed. We went to eat in a restaurant / cafe there and when we received the food we just paid and left it, I am careful with street food myself in Thailand but wife is okay with it of course but she would not eat what was dished up here. I loved Hong Kong as i was their as a kid for quite a few years but i won't be returning again. Sorry if this offends anybody but what is going on in the world really has to make you think


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    I hear that the rugby ground in cardiff is now being set up as a hospital / recovery centre ready for the increase in cases. Today i had a message from a friend that the reasons the infected figures seem so low in wales is that they are not testing many people because the welsh order for tests has fallen through. So really we do not know much at all. A bit worrying on top of worrying

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickj1000 View Post
    I hear that the rugby ground in cardiff is now being set up as a hospital / recovery centre ready for the increase in cases. Today i had a message from a friend that the reasons the infected figures seem so low in wales is that they are not testing many people because the welsh order for tests has fallen through. So really we do not know much at all. A bit worrying on top of worrying[/COLOR]
    Yes, this is true. In Cumbria a number of leisure/sport centres are being transformed into a NHS help centre with extra hospital beds. At the moment, these measures are based on the emphasis of precaution and not that our current NHS hospitals are at breaking point. I am sure this is happening all around the country, yet we will only hear about the likes of the Principality Stadium etc etc that are being transformed.

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    Does anyone know if they will be any walk in test centres for covid-19 opening in the near future? that will tell us if we've got/had the virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elad View Post
    Does anyone know if they will be any walk in test centres for covid-19 opening in the near future? that will tell us if we've got/had the virus.
    In the UK that is something under consideration, it will help the scientists do their work in the future more efficiently.
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    Not going back to the UK now, staying in Thailand. I have been worried about my 93 year old mother self isolating and was planning going back next Tuesday but my wife and her friends in Bangkok have been saying that I am crazy because the Uk Parliament are not looking after the people, they haven't even ordered the tests even though they were warned 2 months ago by WHO so nobody knows who has the virus. My brother has asked me not to come because of concerns of getting the virus on the plane or more worrying maybe in Heathrow through customs or in the bus station. Megabus stopping the buses was the final straw, have no desire to take a train to Paddington and then to Wales after 13 hours on a flight. My brother says he will move into my house in Cardiff to keep an eye on my mother if she has problems but the truth is she has many neighbours and friends looking after thank god and we phone her every night. Bit of a long story for you folks but I think that I am not the only one having to think about these things with family in different parts of the world or even in different parts of the UK. Some friends of mine now are getting more and more angry as they realize that nothing was planned to deal with this and the affect it is happen on all the communities. A few days ago the welsh government said that a deal to get tests from a foreign supplier has fallen through but they are making a new plan and are going to do many more tests. They were asked what plan and why they did not get them in a long time ago and they did not answer, just asked for the next question. My friends are the most easy going and jokey people you could meet but they are getting angry now. The government or is it parliament really need to get on top of this, they left it for months and seem to be living on a wing and a prayer

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    There is so much worry around at the moment Nick you are not the only one.

    My wife works in a care home which has two active confirmed cases of COVID-19 and one who died last week. We have two children at home one of which has asthma. My wife wants to immediately leave her job as apparently 200+ people have advised her to do so on some Thai-UK Facebook page.
    I have told her that she will be expected to serve her months notice period, particularly at this time!

    Its just a terrible time all around and I don't think anyone has the answers!

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    I think the UK governments response so far has been pretty good. A hell of a lot better than Thailands, that's for sure.

    imho most of the problems over here are being exaggerated by a media desparately trying to turn a slow moving news story into a 24/7 news event. One person complains about something publicaly and it's blown up out of all proportion. One nurse in one hospital complains about PPE and it's the news headline for the rest of the day. Regardless of the fact that nearly all hospitals are getting more than adequate supplies.

    Our testing regime is about the same as that in France and Italy. It's unfair to compare it to Germany's, who have a much larger lab capacity and manufacturing base. The government have promised that things will improve massively this month. 25,000 antigen tests per day and 75,000 antibody tests. That would be Gold standard for sure.

    The NHS is coping very well at the moment and by all accounts still has plenty of capacity. More is coming online daily. Look at the amazing success story of the Nightingale Hospital at the Excel centre. Plus more are being built at the NEC in Birmingham, the MEN in Manchester, the SSE in Glasgow and the Prinicipality stadium.

    Also look at the success with the development of new respirators and CPAP machines. It's amazing.

    If I was to fall very ill with Covid, I know where I'd rather be.
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    The government or is it parliament really need to get on top of this, they left it for months and seem to be living on a wing and a prayer
    I work for the NHS and even though there are some short fallings there is an incredible amount going on and considering the complete chaos there could be IMHO they are doing an incredible job in the circumstances. Trying to balance support, economics, "rebellious attitudes"/flouting, safety and the future in the current circumstances is a complete nightmare.

    In the part of the NHS where I work all leave was cancelled and I was called back from holiday. We are all provided with updates and safety precautions/distancing regulations and a massive drive has been made to get as many people as possible into working from home and providing equipment and resources that mean that more patients can be dealt with without the doctors and nurses facing greater risks. I spent a lot of time working in surgeries and visiting 2 local hospitals in Jan/Feb and the beginning of March, this was immediately stopped in March and all further contact has been telephone/remote control setups. If a visit was to be needed it would have had to been double checked and authorised, that has not had to happen due to the systems in place. There have been a lot of extra staff hired as when the crisis hit big time there were hundreds of abandoned calls from staff and front line staff were having to wait on the lines for them to be answered. That went on for a couple of days before immediate action taken and it's now around 10 abandoned calls a day and staff answered almost immediately. I have been working up to 12 hours a day taking calls and also keeping on top of my normal duties where possible, but the direct support to the staff takes a massive priority. The senior management teams are working their socks off to co-ordinate things and adapt as the situation changes.

    There are still some issues with supply chains, but the biggest issue is some people deliberately flouting the stay at home rule and complaining about abuse of Police power (when the Police are also putting themselves at incredible risk). In Coventry there's been a mass of major crime over the last couple of weeks, the increase in car thefts and stealing from cars is shocking to see. So the biggest problem I see is some idiots flouting the rules and not helping out for the greater good. Whilst most are showing how selfless they are there are still too many showing how selfish they are :-(

    Apart from those morons I feel much safer with the way the Government are running things than I did 2 weeks ago. With the additional work being done on innovation and with emergency services I am actually quite proud of what is happening here...

    I should also add that the situation with the Supermarkets and Supermarket staff has also been incredible under the circumstances and has improved incredibly in the last 3 weeks, though I have only been out from home on 3 necessary occasions, the rest of my family have not left home once.

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    On testing I work for a Clinical research organisation we employ several thousand medics and scientists across the world involved in drug trials. We received a request for volunteers to staff testing centres and to use our labs to perform tests.
    There is an enormous effort from the private sector to help the NHS and in the search for effective drugs and vaccines but the lock down is impacting site visits and monitoring and not least the morale of teams across the world.
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    Hoping to get some advice from Tobias on this one.

    Myself and Mol are currently booked with Jet2 to go to Majorca on an 8 day package holiday, leaving on Jun17. So far I've only paid the deposit of £120, but the balance of over £1700 is due on April the 8th.

    Jet2's current stance seems to be that everything will go ahead as planned. They have suspended their flights until April 30th in line with the FCO's travel advice:

    As a result of the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, the UK Foreign & Commonwealth Office (FCO) is advising against all non-essential worldwide travel for a period of 30 days. We’ve therefore suspended all our flights until 30 April 2020. For the latest government advice, please visit the dedicated website here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/travel-a...el-coronavirus

    However if you go onto the FCO's website and look up travel advice for Spain, there is no time limit mentioned:

    As countries respond to the COVID-19 pandemic, including travel and border restrictions, the FCO advises British nationals against all but essential international travel. Any country or area may restrict travel without notice.

    So it seems very unlikely that Jet2 are going to cancel my holiday before the balance due date. So that leaves me two options. 1) Cancel now and lose the deposit or 2) pay the balance and try to claim it back when it gets cancelled. Unless you can think of an alternative I will go for option 1. I'd rather not part with £1700 right now.

    Just seems a bit unfair for Jet2 to force customers into cancelling in order to keep the deposit. .
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    I wish the very best for you and your wife Walshie, it is a real dilemma for you, and you are right for no one has the answers

    Quote Originally Posted by walshie View Post
    There is so much worry around at the moment Nick you are not the only one.

    My wife works in a care home which has two active confirmed cases of COVID-19 and one who died last week. We have two children at home one of which has asthma. My wife wants to immediately leave her job as apparently 200+ people have advised her to do so on some Thai-UK Facebook page.
    I have told her that she will be expected to serve her months notice period, particularly at this time!

    Its just a terrible time all around and I don't think anyone has the answers!
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    I really hope you are right Keith. The NHS people and carers are unbelievable but there is no excusing Parliament not actioning things before. Italy surely must have been a warning shot louder than the loudest cannon to start getting ready. I understand everybody has different views on it however but i will never forgive this parliament's lack of action

    Quote Originally Posted by -Keith- View Post
    I think the UK governments response so far has been pretty good. A hell of a lot better than Thailands, that's for sure.


    imho most of the problems over here are being exaggerated by a media desparately trying to turn a slow moving news story into a 24/7 news event. One person complains about something publicaly and it's blown up out of all proportion. One nurse in one hospital complains about PPE and it's the news headline for the rest of the day. Regardless of the fact that nearly all hospitals are getting more than adequate supplies.

    Our testing regime is about the same as that in France and Italy. It's unfair to compare it to Germany's, who have a much larger lab capacity and manufacturing base. The government have promised that things will improve massively this month. 25,000 antigen tests per day and 75,000 antibody tests. That would be Gold standard for sure.

    The NHS is coping very well at the moment and by all accounts still has plenty of capacity. More is coming online daily. Look at the amazing success story of the Nightingale Hospital at the Excel centre. Plus more are being built at the NEC in Birmingham, the MEN in Manchester, the SSE in Glasgow and the Prinicipality stadium.

    Also look at the success with the development of new respirators and CPAP machines. It's amazing.

    If I was to fall very ill with Covid, I know where I'd rather be.
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    Is the government working with you 100 % Ash? I hope so, we need all labs to be involved as they closed many of the old government centres years ago i believe

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    On testing I work for a Clinical research organisation we employ several thousand medics and scientists across the world involved in drug trials. We received a request for volunteers to staff testing centres and to use our labs to perform tests.
    There is an enormous effort from the private sector to help the NHS and in the search for effective drugs and vaccines but the lock down is impacting site visits and monitoring and not least the morale of teams across the world.
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    I can't even imagine the stresses in the NHS at the moment dealing with this. I know that during times of crisis everybody works 200 % and now with risk to themselves s well. I think yes that the best efforts are now being made and I was astounded at certain behaviours not taking Boris' advice. I think people are listening now though with a few exceptions, at least i hope so. Theft is deplorable ! Thanks for everything you are doing, there is not enough that can be said about this

    Quote Originally Posted by KhunIanB-UK View Post
    I work for the NHS and even though there are some short fallings there is an incredible amount going on and considering the complete chaos there could be IMHO they are doing an incredible job in the circumstances. Trying to balance support, economics, "rebellious attitudes"/flouting, safety and the future in the current circumstances is a complete nightmare.

    In the part of the NHS where I work all leave was cancelled and I was called back from holiday. We are all provided with updates and safety precautions/distancing regulations and a massive drive has been made to get as many people as possible into working from home and providing equipment and resources that mean that more patients can be dealt with without the doctors and nurses facing greater risks. I spent a lot of time working in surgeries and visiting 2 local hospitals in Jan/Feb and the beginning of March, this was immediately stopped in March and all further contact has been telephone/remote control setups. If a visit was to be needed it would have had to been double checked and authorised, that has not had to happen due to the systems in place. There have been a lot of extra staff hired as when the crisis hit big time there were hundreds of abandoned calls from staff and front line staff were having to wait on the lines for them to be answered. That went on for a couple of days before immediate action taken and it's now around 10 abandoned calls a day and staff answered almost immediately. I have been working up to 12 hours a day taking calls and also keeping on top of my normal duties where possible, but the direct support to the staff takes a massive priority. The senior management teams are working their socks off to co-ordinate things and adapt as the situation changes.

    There are still some issues with supply chains, but the biggest issue is some people deliberately flouting the stay at home rule and complaining about abuse of Police power (when the Police are also putting themselves at incredible risk). In Coventry there's been a mass of major crime over the last couple of weeks, the increase in car thefts and stealing from cars is shocking to see. So the biggest problem I see is some idiots flouting the rules and not helping out for the greater good. Whilst most are showing how selfless they are there are still too many showing how selfish they are :-(

    Apart from those morons I feel much safer with the way the Government are running things than I did 2 weeks ago. With the additional work being done on innovation and with emergency services I am actually quite proud of what is happening here...

    I should also add that the situation with the Supermarkets and Supermarket staff has also been incredible under the circumstances and has improved incredibly in the last 3 weeks, though I have only been out from home on 3 necessary occasions, the rest of my family have not left home once.

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    Nick, I totally disagree with your views on this governments actions. I think they've done a fantastic job in unbelievably difficult circumstances.
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    Is the government working with you 100 % Ash? I hope so, we need all labs to be involved as they closed many of the old government centres years ago i believe
    All governments are working with us across Europe the USA and Africa

    For the record I also applaud the governments actions given the circumstances they have done a great job to date many of the so called failures are media driven frenzy not based on facts.

    As for the crime wave I personally think that we should reintroduce flogging and/or the death penalty for the duration of the pandemic
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