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    All beaches are now closed near us as the police shut Bang Saray's down yesterday evening. There were about 60 people scattered along the 3km beach or walking on it, now it is deemed a health hazzard???? On the way home noticed the very crowded Bang Saray market was OK. Probably double the amount of people in an area the size of a tennis court. Not deemed a health hazzard???? Anyone who decides they want to get the virus quickly and done with should go there as I'm sure it will be there or if not very soon.
    On another note two or more provinces are introducing fines of Bht 20,000 for not wearing masks when out of your home. I guess more will follow so now is the time to make sure you have one even if you have to use it repeatedly. I guess it will be foreigners who will be paying the fines first because as the health secretary says dirty unwashed foreigners all of us. I don't really go out at the moment except to walk the dog and once a week shopping so I don't need many masks, the beach yesterday was an exception as I was told it was empty and safe. I have ordered some more washable and decent looking face masks from Lazada they look better quality than most but time will tell, if we ever receive them due in two to three weeks time. I will then have a few perhaps effective masks for crowded places and less effective ones for walking the dog if still allowed to do so.

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    link to masks would be good, thanks
    i made some 3 layer materials masks on the trusty 1959 singer, but some proper good quality ones would be nice to have, i am the same here at phala beach, all closed off and i was looking forward to sitting there and reading a book. have a few 'shops' plying their trade driving up our soi. ice cream, coffee etc, and the next door neighbour has a cafe near us and will bring any cooked food we require home with then around 5.30pm, so not too hard to stay at home, always some work needed on the vw kombi anyway, but a bit hot at the moment. be safe

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    i think Thailand is only locked down for is it 6 hours, i went shopping the other day and all sorts of shops are open, people everywhere

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    There is too much fake or at least confusing news around. Thailand is having a curfew, is it? what times? Some say 24 hours some say 10pm to 4am. Some say you have to wear a mask outside I haven't seen that written down anywhere except for two provinces, not mine. I know some shops will not let you in without a mask, no problem if I can buy one.
    Even the missus said today that its bad in the UK and Europe because we don't wear masks. I think Thailand has been very fortunate if the numbers are true which they cannot be as they don't do hardly any testing. All those Chinese tourist coming in for so long left us thinking that maybe it was the heat or sunlight that was helping keep it down. The Thai media seem to think that the numbers are now increasing because of Europeans coming to Thailand or Thais returning from Europe or Thais socialising with Europeans no mention these days of the Chinese and the potentially thousands of infected tourists which were allowed in during January and February. It's all going to be blamed on us the "dirty westerners".

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    I was amazed that the Chinese tourists were allowed in with all the problems in China, I strongly felt this should have been stopped. The same goes for European countries as well who compounded their problems by allowing free market travel as the infection spread amongst the indigenous population. There is some irony now with the Chinese government closing their borders to foreigners. I think Thailand is lucky in that the warm weather is very discouraging for the virus and although it can still travel and grow it cannot last long outside in the higher temperatures. I suspect as well that the warm weather and sunshine strengthens the body against it but it does not make people invulnerable. My understanding of the curfew in Bangkok is 10.00 pm until 4.00 am which i guess is largely to stop the party drinkers or late night gambling fans from getting together. Drinking, gambling and boxing venues seem to have been a major problem. I do believe the Thai government has tried hard to control this and care about the people. They quickly move when it starts up again albeit not with the level of lock down as seen in European countries now. Very few countries have stopped tourists coming in though which has been a baffle to me but i guess it must have been a money decision. I see now that a group of Thai tourists back from the states went rogue and the government are tracking them with threat of fines and jail, still about 20 missing though! With regard to the UK and many European countries nobody can deny the lethargic response to the oncoming virus but all countries are now doing everything they can to beat it. The UK government / parliament have had a major shock with this i am sure but they are working 100 % to beat it so full credit to them their. I hope they move these tests fast and get the protective gear in quickly to help the frontliners who put themselves at risk. I think the lock down is going to work to beat the major spread, I think it will be in place until the end of May then lets see I hope ....

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    There is too much fake or at least confusing news around. Thailand is having a curfew, is it? what times? Some say 24 hours some say 10pm to 4am. Some say you have to wear a mask outside I haven't seen that written down anywhere except for two provinces, not mine. I know some shops will not let you in without a mask, no problem if I can buy one.
    Even the missus said today that its bad in the UK and Europe because we don't wear masks. I think Thailand has been very fortunate if the numbers are true which they cannot be as they don't do hardly any testing. All those Chinese tourist coming in for so long left us thinking that maybe it was the heat or sunlight that was helping keep it down. The Thai media seem to think that the numbers are now increasing because of Europeans coming to Thailand or Thais returning from Europe or Thais socialising with Europeans no mention these days of the Chinese and the potentially thousands of infected tourists which were allowed in during January and February. It's all going to be blamed on us the "dirty westerners".

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAS View Post
    There is too much fake or at least confusing news around. Thailand is having a curfew, is it? what times? Some say 24 hours some say 10pm to 4am.
    “From 3 April a nationwide curfew will be in effect between 10pm and 4am each day, although with limited exceptions including travel to and from airports.” - gov.uk

    As for the dirty westerners, I can think of quite a few places I have been and seen (in between all the thousands of normal people) some absolutely terrible, dirty and rude western visitor’s. It is these people who fit in so perfectly to the Thai media’s cherry picked examples of the worst westerners they can find to fuel the fear & racism.

    On a more personal and worrying note, I had to collect my wife at 3am from work. The management have sent her home as she is suffering from COVID-19 symptoms. There are 3 confirmed, two dead and 4 suspected cases of the virus at the care home she works in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickj1000 View Post
    II do believe the Thai government has tried hard to control this and care about the people.
    In what way can you claim that this Government cares about Thai people?! Do you understand how many Thai's now have zero income? 43% work in the informal sector, the by-product of successive Governments caring education system. The vast majority are getting zilch help from the Government here. Luckily, rice and eggs go a long way. Landlords locally are reducing rents in businesses shut down by the Govt. by peanuts ie. from 25k per month to 20k per month. Business owners now have no option but to walk away. They can't even get home. Their staff will have no work to return to. There are many, many desperate Thais out there who before the virus lived pretty much hand to mouth who now can't even do that. I have a friend who with his wife runs a coffee shop in a small town near Chiang Rai. They had a nice little business. They have closed because they now have zero customers as no-one can afford to buy a coffee. They will be okay, but clearly those around them are really suffering.

    This Govt. cares about consolidating it's power base, purging dissenters, protecting the status quo and wealth of the privileged few and 'Thainess'. That last one get's a bit thorny when the activities of a certain person are now widely known by Thai's.

    On a separate issue about masks. The Governor of PKK has made it a requirement for everyone to wear masks when out and about. I am lucky that where I live, the Juristic Office keep us updated with such 'commands' as does the local forum. He also shut down all the swimming pools, which is a Bu**er for me, having had a cataract op a couple of months back, I was hoping to get the all clear to start swimming again this week!
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    Hi Caller. You know more about these things than i do i am sure. I am really talking about keeping ahead of the virus which is the main thing my Thai wife supports them for. The many other things you list we would no dispute. I understand your feelings regarding the pools and gyms, everything shut down in our condo and bangkok and i am reduced to running from our front door to the bedroom and back. Looks like they are going to automatically extend the tourist visas now though which is good news after our harrowing visit to immigration a couple of weeks ago. No social distancing there, so many people, staff working until midnight. My hats off to them

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickj1000 View Post
    Looks like they are going to automatically extend the tourist visas now though which is good news after our harrowing visit to immigration a couple of weeks ago. No social distancing there, so many people, staff working until midnight. My hats off to them
    That still isn't happening either. Locally, Prachaup Kiri Khan immigration are refusing to deal with 30 day extensions and sending everyone to Hua Hin, where they can be crammed in with all the others. It's truly disgraceful. I don't care how long they are being forced to work for. If they showed some humanity rather than bash the foreigner, then I might change my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caller View Post
    That still isn't happening either. Locally, Prachaup Kiri Khan immigration are refusing to deal with 30 day extensions and sending everyone to Hua Hin, where they can be crammed in with all the others. It's truly disgraceful. I don't care how long they are being forced to work for. If they showed some humanity rather than bash the foreigner, then I might change my opinion.
    the new automatic renewal of visas/extensions has now been signed by the PM, and in force in Thailand, so if a visa/extension of stay expired on or after 26 March it will be automatically extended until 30th April 2020. No overstay fees will be charged during this period. any overstays prior to this date will have to be paid/cleared at immigration office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve187 View Post
    the new automatic renewal of visas/extensions has now been signed by the PM, and in force in Thailand, so if a visa/extension of stay expired on or after 26 March it will be automatically extended until 30th April 2020. No overstay fees will be charged during this period. any overstays prior to this date will have to be paid/cleared at immigration office.
    Sorry Steve but what does that mean that if my visa is due to expire next week I no longer need to go to immigration?

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    If I understand this correctly this just means that all of the people with expired visa's who did not go to immigration because of virus fears have an amnesty. My Visa expires on the 21st of april after a 30 day extension so do I have to go back to immigration again, I think so, I think i have to follow the due process. Any comments would be appreciated ??
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    Sorry Steve but what does that mean that if my visa is due to expire next week I no longer need to go to immigration?

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    I hope everyone is well stocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickj1000 View Post
    If I understand this correctly this just means that all of the people with expired visa's who did not go to immigration because of virus fears have an amnesty. My Visa expires on the 21st of april after a 30 day extension so do I have to go back to immigration again, I think so, I think i have to follow the due process. Any comments would be appreciated ??
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    Is there any link to this concession? It would be good to have clarification of what and who is covered, for example does this cover those who entered under the 30 day visa exemption scheme?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve187 View Post
    the new automatic renewal of visas/extensions has now been signed by the PM, and in force in Thailand, so if a visa/extension of stay expired on or after 26 March it will be automatically extended until 30th April 2020. No overstay fees will be charged during this period. any overstays prior to this date will have to be paid/cleared at immigration office.
    As this is an important development I’ve started a dedicated topic which contains the official information. It will be found here: Thailand announces automatic visa extensions (April 2020)
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    Must have missed this article a while back.
    https://www.bangkokpost.com/business...cies-wind-down
    They had a 14 day period from purchasing until the policies kicked in.
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    There are growing numbers of hit squads stopping cars and putting temperature tests through the car windows right now. It seems Thailand is going for the final stretch in its strongest capacity. I like the approach they are taking but I'm not sure if these measures are taking it to the extreme. They aren't wearing gloves so who's to say they are any less risk of passing it on than those being tested? Just the opinion of a cynic.
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    I very much doubt them not wearing gloves will make any difference. The spread of this virus is primarily via respiratory droplets, the little blobs of liquid that shoot out when someone coughs, sneezes, or talks.

    Infected droplets infect people via the eyes, nose, or mouth if they land directly on somebody’s face or by people touching their face with contaminated hands. Hands get contaminated from touching surfaces where droplets have landed and then touch their own face, mounth, nose or eyes. So the gloves offer very little protection in the circumstances you mention.

    Washing hands is the key, that offers far more protection than a glove.
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    The lockdown here in Phuket has been extended by four days from the 26th April. The individual tambons are sealed from one another and it looks like that will be lifted then. Fines for trying to leave your tambon, for not wearing a face mask and breaking curfew are very severe. The sale of alcohol is still banned until further notice.

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    Today we went on our "Big COVID-19 Adventure" with a trip up to Chaengwattana Immigration Complex, first mission was the Kor 2 at Lak-Si district office, can drive to the toll plaza in less than two minutes, normally would be snails pace to Port exit, but today was very light traffic to Din Daeng, the price at Din Daeng toll plaza has now gone up to 80 baht, never seen rush hour on the expressway so quiet.
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    Northbound Expressway (towards Lak-Si / DMK)
    Looked like we were the customers at Lak-Si DO, so then off to CWIC, as expected no problems parking, and like Lak-Si DO got shot in the head for temperature check, gel on, then straight to make sure KTB (bank) was open, again both got shot in our nappers and more gel, only end seating was available in-between was signed out of use, that was the same case upstairs for the yearly extension (Non-IMM O based on Thai wife) Social Distancing was well observed by everyone, got our queue ticket then off for food all the seating was removed in the canteens, but some takeaways were open, there was plenty of room to sit and eat upstairs. Was quite relaxed when our turn, they needed a letter of guarantee from KTB and a photocopy of the Bank Book, so I went and was sorted in a few minutes after being re-shot in the bonce (temp check) and more gel, sods law they did nt keep the new Kor 2, but did keep the copy of the original Kor 2, this year they kept all photos, they kept Google map of the area with Condo, kept general complex plan, gave back our floors plan and Condo plan, the Officer was fast, courteous and efficient, when I came back with the bank letter everything was ready for me to sign and the officer had printed the receipt before Mrs had paid the fee. The return journey was equally fast, certainly the fastest return trip to CWIC.
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    I ve drove on / off in BKK for 16/17 years, never seen the motorways clear (green) on a week day before.
    Stayed downstairs until Din Daeng Toll, then motorway to Bang Na.
    Everyone wore masks today, and there were plenty on sale in the basement of CWIC.
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