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    Alan David Morgan
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    The wife has been with me in the Uk for over 2 years now, we have the ILR and are currently treading water for the Citizenship and passport.
    She obtained a full time job within 4 weeks of arriving and has paid Tax and N/Insurance ever since, but i doubt she will ever qualify for a state pension in her own right.

    We intend returning to Thailand in just over 2 1/2 years time on a retirement visa, i am currently sorting out my various pension schemes ( Predicted payments etc )as these will be our only source of income.
    When it comes to my state pension, as the wife is currently 49 years old, Do i get the single persons pension of £90-70 per week or do i qualify for the married couples allowance of £145-05 per week ??

    Advice from anyone who has come up against this would be appreciated,
    Many thanks in advance.

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    Hi
    I am married living with my wife in Thailand , i first claimed my pension 27/2/08, i didnt know about claiming for my wife as i thought i wouldnt get as she has never lived in UK or got a National Insurance Number, it was on another forum that i found out i could apply for marriage pension in March, i applied and i am still waiting b6 months later for a decision , apparantly they nare waiting for a N.I Number to be issued to my nwife and then they will give me a married mans pension , my wife is under 40 and never been to UK , i will keep you informed of the outcome , if i where you i would apply for a NI Number for your wife whilst you are living in UK , once you have that you can apply for a married mans pension

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    Alan, why not use the pension forecasting service? Click here for details.
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    Alan, if she is working now your wife will have a national insurance number, when you retire you willl be able to claim a married mans allowance.

    David, a friend of mine applied for a married mans allowance when he was living in Thailand with his wife who had never been to the UK, it took 12 months to get, but it was back dated to the time he applied for the marreid allowance.
    dont judge me by my past, I dont live there anymore.

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    Sorry for the delay in responding, but many thanks for the advice.
    The wife has had a N/Insurance number for over 2 years now, so if thats all thats required it makes life a lot easier.
    I look forward to see how you get on David. Once again, many thanks.

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    Also, many thanks John, the pensions link you provided is a wealth of information and i would recommend it to everyone.

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    Success after a 7 month application process, i have now been awarded additional allowance on my UK Pension for my wife and it was back dated with arrears paid to my pension start date which was 3/3/08 , the increase is worth 52.36 pounds a week .
    If you apply and your wife already has a UK National Insurance number it will be quick, if like me she lives in Thailand and doesnt work and has never had a national insurance number , phone the international pensions centre 008441912187777 and ask for application form, allowance for wife , when you send it in make sure you send in the following , marriage cert, wifes birth cert, and if wife has been divorced her divorce papers , they will translate and start the process for issuing a NIN , send them EMS as it is quicker, registered and you can track it on line at Thai post, if you hear nothing after 6 weeks give them a call or send email , remeber when it arrives at pensions office it takes a further 2 weeks before it is in the hands of the person who will deal with it , badger them with emails and phone calls and it will quicken the process , it did in my case .
    Good luck pm me if you want any more details
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    Hi Dave,
    I read with interest your comments about claiming additional (I assume State Pension) pension for your Thai wife. I am hearing this for the first time, and I must admit I am scepticle. However, I would be obliged if you could add some more detail to the information that you have already provided. My Thai wife and I are currently living and working in the UK, and shall do so until April 2011, after which we will occupy our house in Khon Kaen and live in LOS. I would prefer a direct reply to [*] I look forward to hearing from you.
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    I think the rules are changing soon;an aquaintaince living in Thailand just married his long term partner(never been to the UK) and came back to the UK for a few weeks to sort out his married mans pension etc.He,s got it but i,m sure he said that he was lucky because 'next' year the joint married allowance is getting scrapped.

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    The rules are indeed changing, in April 2010. That is, new claims for the addition for wife will no longer be permitted, and those already in payment when the change is brought in next April will only get the addition until April 2020.

    It is already the case that in respect of State Retirement Pension, an increase cannot be claimed for a dependent child. However the reason for that is that a claim can certainly be made, if relevant, for Tax Credits, which of course include Child Tax Credit.
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    Adult dependency increase changes
    From 6 April 2010, it will no longer be possible to claim an increase of your State Pension for another adult. This is an ‘adult dependency increase’. It is an increase in your State Pension for a wife, husband or someone who is looking after your children, if he or she is considered to be financially dependent on you.
    If you are already entitled to this increase on 5 April 2010, you will be able to keep it until you no longer meet the conditions for the increase or until 5 April 2020, whichever is first.
    If you claim your State Pension on or after 6 April 2010, you will not be able to claim an increase for an adult who depends on you financially when you finally claim your State Pension.


    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Pensions...sion/DG_069498

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    So now I have to work to at least 66 and don't get the married extra, by the time I do come to retire I think I should expect nothing or if they're lucky be dead before I ever get to an increasing retirement age and decreasing pension amount (in real terms of course), great system! Wish I'd gone in to banking with Fred the Shread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    The rules are indeed changing, in April 2010.
    Not that I ever thought it counted for much, but now I should tear up that State Pension forecast I received only this year? The lying so and so's. Madame will not be impressed. She was counting on that to fund her shoes and handbag habit.

    We have a friend in Thailand who is happily claiming for his wife whom he married there and she has never been to UK. He did it all by email. There was a bit of a wait for the all important National Insurance number but once that was allocated the money came straight away, backdated to date of claim. He seems to consider that a good income by local standards, meagre though it seems to me. He will be less happy when he learns they will abruptly stop paying it in 10 years when he's in his dotage. With no annual increases, what's left won't keep them in som tam.

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    but surly if your wife has obtained British status,she automatically is entitled to a state pension,or is only if she has paid N.I contributions or claimed child benerfit?

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    Pensions will be treated seperately;the term reqd will be reduced to 30 yrs NIC,s for both men and women.I guess its a way to stop guys benefitting from marrying 'foreigners' and then reaping the rewards(forgetting about all the s..t with visa costs etc).
    Your wife will receive a seperate pension depending on the amount of NIC years eg..she works for 10 yrs before you both retire to thailand 10/30 = 1/3 of the full state pension= £30 pw?

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