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    Hi Guys,

    Thinking of buying my gf a netbook or cheap laptop for her birthday when I'm over in Thailand in October. She currently has to rely on using a friends laptop or the internet shop when we online. What can I expect to pay and do they usually come with operating system software or will that be extra? To give an idea of what I'm looking for I have a Dell Inspiron 10 mini netbook which is great for skype/msn etc. I paid a little over £200 in the UK which I guess is around 10500baht....would cost be the same in Thailand? Also how would she access the internet from her room. For example in the UK we can buy pre-paid usb dongles sort of like pay as you go internet which can be topped up similar to phone cards which would be ideal, is there a similar system in Thailand. She lives in Mahasarakham so not sure how readily available these things would be. Sorry to have to ask such trivial questions but I'm not the most technical minded guy and my gf hasn't got a clue so I will have to try to teach her when I'm there.
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    I bought a netbook for 12000 thb, but was given an edge modem dongal for mobile internet access for free (had to ask though). AIS have good deals on internet time, buy a sim card (50thb) put it into a mobile phone then buy credit. Next you need to assisn that credit to internet time.


    To convert, dial *138, then when prompted, 1 for english, then select 2 for mobile net package, then 1 for monthly package. Now select the package you want. The package is autorenewedafter 1 month, but beware....if you run out of internet time before the end of month, you will be charged 0.75 per minute again.

    From memory I bought 250 hours for 300thb plus 7% tax, unlimited is another option for 535thb (incl tax) The credit is taken off your sim card immediately.

    If you run out of minutes before the end of the month, then cancel the contract and start a new one, otherwise any additional time purchased may expire at the end of your month, i don't know

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    Try a search for Big C and tesco, (thailand) they will give you an idea of price and speck.

    Software is usualy extra,and not gen windows,only copies, so updates are not poss.

    BKK is your best choice.

    Personaly id buy one here.

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    Hi Peter & steve thanks for both replies. Stevem...I had considered taking one from here as there's some cheap one's around right now, or even giving her my current Dell which is pretty much brand new & already set up for msn etc....but its in English language settings which she would struggle with unless it could be changed to thai settings over there? Again I don't have a clue about technology

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevem View Post
    Software is usualy extra,and not gen windows,only copies, so updates are not poss.
    Many notebooks and mini-notebooks come with genuine Windows pre-installed. It's well worth paying the extra for one of those. Prices are slightly higher than in the UK, but if it's going to be used in Thailand, by buying in Thailand, you won't have a 12,000 mile round trip to take it back to the shop under warranty.



    Personaly id buy one here.
    A sensible choice if you're going to use it in the UK and don't need a Thai keyboard. On the other hand ....
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    Todd, I have sent you a pm. Got a thai netbook complete with thai XP operating system, mobile dongal with sim card, thai mains lead and a neat case to store it all in.....may be happy to sell it to you if you like

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    Actualy thats what i thought,ie compaq,hp,etc pre loaded on hard drive.

    In Jan this yr i was looking to buy a pc from Bigc, from the above makers.

    But all the info i got from salesman was that i still had to buy the microsoft disks,.He did not seem to understand that i thought that the pc were already preloaded.

    LOl, ll put it down to talking to wrong salesman.

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    If you have a genuine copy of windows .... can't you input the code from your windows genuine copy onto another laptop legally ?
    I'm there
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    @maokaang - It won't be for my use, purely for her to use in Thailand. It would be easier & cheaper for me to take one over from the UK but she'll struggle with the English language settings
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    I tried to buy a laptop in tesco in krabi not long ago. "oh yes windows for 700b" ? will it have a licence ? no answer. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddmeister View Post
    purely for her to use in Thailand. It would be easier & cheaper for me to take one over from the UK but she'll struggle with the English language settings
    That can be fixed with the addition of a 'Thai language pack' which could be installed for you afterwards in Thailand, but it wouldn't solve the problem of typing in Thai without a Thai keyboard layout. Unless you can find one on ebay or something with a Thai keyboard layout, I'd pay the extra and buy it in Thailand if that's where it's going to be used. Go to a reputable store and get one with genuine Windows pre-installed. Plenty to choose from. Avoid the small market-style places. Lotus and Big C also are one of the last places I'd consider buying a notebook. Can't advise you any further without knowing where you'll be shopping for one.

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    Concur with Paul over buying from a reputable store and although they can be hard to find, one with the operating system pre-installed. My wife bought an Acer laptop with "genuine XP for sure sir" (translated = pirate) installed and the damn thing is forever falling over. I'm not supporting pirate copies but for some reason, the ones that I've experienced in Thailand have all had problems whereas I know people in the UK who've used them without problems.

    I'm not technical when it comes to computers so I don't know if this is correct but an American guy who seemed to know what he was talking about explained it like this: The pirates are sometimes copies of a copy and/or a poor quality copy. One small piece of infromation may be corrupted but the machine may appear to operate normally. When you come to use the programme or part of a programme that is corrupted, the whole operating system may crash.

    Don't know if that's right or wrong but that's what appears to happen with my wife's laptop and considering what she saved vs all the crashes - its just not worth it.

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    If you buy a netbook/laptop in the UK you'll get a genuine, and the latest, version of windows and it will be quite a bit cheaper than Thailand (you can get genuine windows in Thailand buy you have to pay extra, on top of the (dearer) advertised price). You can then have the Thai language option added/turned on in a matter of minutes. If you go to a specialist retailer such as PC World instead of somewhere like Tesco's they will add/install it for you when you buy it.

    You then have two options for the keyboard. Firstly you can (easily) install a virtual keyboard. This will sit on your desktop as a short cut and opens on your screen as a keyboard when you want to use it. You use it buy clicking on the required keys with your mouse (this is also great for imputing passwords, for on line banking for example, as it can't be recognized by keyloggers).

    The second option is just to buy a set of Thai keyboard stickers and stick them on the appropriate keys. They can be bought from almost any TUK COM in Thailand for about twenty baht, or in the UK FOR £2 +PP from http://www.raanthai.co.uk/.

    As well as installing a virtual keyboard I put stickers on my daughter's laptop (which she seems to use 24/7). They stick on securely, don't move with use and you have to 'look twice' before realizing they're stickers and it's not a thai keyboard.

    With both options you can then switch between English and Thai keyboards, plus choose which one you want as the default keyboard.

    For us this was definately a better option than buying a laptop in Thailand.

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    I find the stickers wear out eventually which is great for practicing your touch typing skills but otherwise is a bit of a bother. Depending on the laptop you can swap out the keyboard for a Thai one in the back shops of Pantip Plaza but that would invalidate any warranty.

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    Thanks again to everyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by sumrit View Post
    you can get genuine windows in Thailand buy you have to pay extra, on top of the (dearer) advertised price
    That was certainly the case a few years ago but more and more pre-installed Windows machines are coming onto the market here now. More dealers are also stocking genuine sealed OEM copies of Windows. Two of my last three computer purchases here, an ASUS mini notebook (XP) and Acer Desktop (Windows 7) both came with Windows factory installed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan&ploy View Post
    I find the stickers wear out eventually which is great for practicing your touch typing skills but otherwise is a bit of a bother. Depending on the laptop you can swap out the keyboard for a Thai one in the back shops of Pantip Plaza but that would invalidate any warranty.
    My daughter's used them for a year now, they still look as good as new and she's on sites such as facebook at every spare moment. And at 20 baht a throw you could afford to get half a dozen sets of stickers 'just in case'.

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    Last year , my niece bought a brand new Gateway MS2303 Notebook from a shop in Chiang Mai.
    Today, I have just founded out that the windows XP what was installed on to her computer is not genuine. Also I have been told that she cannot update Microsoft on to her Notebook and she cannot reply to her emails by using Hotmail.

    I honestly think that her Notebook and contents inside is a fake

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    May be not an identical issue to yours, but I bought an Acer laptop for my ex from a shop in BKK. Whilst the hardware was genuine the loaded software loaded was not, including the Windows XP software. Think that this is a prevalent TIT issue - bootlegged software.

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    Sadly very prevalent. You might get lucky and get a fake that keeps going for ages - you may not. I had a genuine laptop with a fake Windows 7 Ultimate on it. They told me when I bought it . It got slower and slower and because I got no updates from MS, it didn't turn out to be a good investment. Most of the top retailers will openly try and flog you a copy or the real thing for a few thousand more - up to you. If you are in any doubt, get them to open windows for you in the shop and enter 'activate windows' in the start menu. A few clicks and you'll soon know if it's kosher.

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