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    Default First post, info needed! ILR and College Evidence

    Hi all,

    This is my first post although I have been a member and reader of this forum for a while now. Firstly a brief intro, my wife and I met in Thailand in 2007 whilst I was travelling, having spent a few months together my travels ended and I headed back to the UK. I decided to return to Thailand for a further year to live with Sai and 8 months later in August 2008 we married, obtained a settlement visa for Sai and came to live in the UK together in Dec 08. Sai has now been living in the UK for nearly 2 years and will be applying for ILR in November this year, She has completed an ESOL course and has recently received her certificate showing progession from pre entry level to entry level 1 as well as a letter from her college confirming this and listing the information stated on the UKBA website.

    The letter states the college is publicly funded and inspected by OFSTED although I now see they ask the college to provide evidence of this, I have asked the college and they have amneded the letter showing links to their OFSTED reports and a contact to confirm their public funding although I am slightly concerned if this will suffice with the UKBA!

    Has anyone had experience of applying for ILR after the recent changes and what proof did they show to prove the college is acreddited?

    I also understand that Sai can apply for ILR 28 days before the 2nd anniversary of her entering the UK? (she arrived on 5th Dec 2008)

    I have seen the post today about the English test which is being introduced on 29th November 2010, from my reading I take it that this will affect not just migrants outside of the UK but Migrants in the UK who will apply to settle permanently after this date. Is this correct? if so I am hoping we will be ok as my understanding is Sai can apply for ILR before this date? (if we can get an appointment before this date)

    Can anyone advise the best way to go about booking an appointment for the premium service when applying for ILR? and how far in advance to do this so we can get an appointment as close as possible to the required date?

    Lastly I would like to say a big thankyou to all involved in ThailandUK for the information and knowledge we have gained so far, be it info on Uk visas, Schengen visas, flights and the rest, as without this site and its members our journey would have been alot trickier than it has been up until now.

    Thanks in anticipation.

    Sam & Sai
    Last edited by Tobias; 16th Aug 2010 at 21:40. Reason: Title edited for clarification

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    Hi, congrats on your first post!

    I am not too confident of the new rules regarding ILR, so I will not offer advice that may mislead you. There are others better qualified than I to advise you.

    I can tell you however that you do not need the college to prove anything to you, the home office are aware of which colleges can and can't be used. Therefore any proof furnished to you is only for your benefit in deciding the suitability of a course.

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    Thanks for your reply Peter. I expected this to have been the case also but had noticed on the template letter provided by UKBA that they ask ESOL providers to attach evidence to their letter of how they meet the criteria to be an accredited college

    http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/si...emplate-letter

    Hopefully the link above works!

    I know I might be overthinking this and worrying about nothing but wanted to see if anyone has come across this and if evidence was required from their college upon submitting their application?

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    Sam,

    For the moment I wouldn't worry too much about whether or not the new English test will affect your wife. I could be wrong and if so I will stand corrected but I believe the announcement made by the UKBA is badly worded and in fact the requirements will only apply to new initial settlement applications made after 28th November 2010. I don't think those already here with FLR or ILR will be affected.

    Watch out for a post by John on this subject, I feel he will know the in's and out's of the new test.

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    Flip, if what you say is true, it would seem that employees of the home office are also badly in need of an English Language Course. If you are right then it is so badly worded that it really is incomprehensible

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    Well Peter, have a little gloat on me then, I've done a little research and it appears I am wrong:

    'Partners who apply for settlement after completing their two-year period of temporary residence will still need to meet the 'knowledge of language and life in the UK' test. This is in addition to the new basic English language requirement, which forms part of their initial application.'

    http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/si...sh-requirement

    Hmmmmmmmmm I'll add this as an edit..................I don't after all, think I was wrong. Notice the quote states: 'This is in addition to the new basic English language requirement, which forms part of their initial application'

    Apology forthcoming Peter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip View Post

    Apology forthcoming Peter?
    for what mate? I never said you were wrong, simply that if you are right it is so badly worded as to be incomprehensible. I never accuse someone of being wrong unless

    1. I am absolutely sure, and
    2. from now on they are not a mod.

    I would also never gloat, unless even after seeing unrefutable proof you would still not admit to being wrong.

    In this particular case I really do not know who is right and who is wrong which is clearly reflect in my first post in this thread

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    Sorry, I took your post about home office employees being in need of an English language course as sarcastic.

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    lol! no I was actually being honest, the wording is truly deplorable!

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    The confusion is hardly surprising, in addition to the poor wording, note that the part where it refers to initial applications is right at the very bottom. A lot of people won't read that far as its only a quote and are likely to have made their minds up based on the first couple of paragraphs.

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    Forgive me if I am wrong but does this mean that the test can be studied for at any college or training school and then that the exam/test has to be done at one of the places referred to in the link? The places supposedly
    who are approved do not exactly seem to be well spaced out geographically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millermac View Post
    Forgive me if I am wrong but does this mean that the test can be studied for at any college or training school and then that the exam/test has to be done at one of the places referred to in the link? The places supposedly
    who are approved do not exactly seem to be well spaced out geographically.
    No, the tests must be taken in the country you are applying for the visa from, and prior to making that application.

    This is just a list of tests that will be recognized and which examination body has set them.

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    Sumrit, people can apply for settlement from within the UK as well, can't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary & Nok View Post
    Sumrit, people can apply for settlement from within the UK as well, can't they?
    Yes they can Gary, Sorry I didn't make my post very clear, I kept getting interrupted by the other half wanting to go shopping (again).

    The tests must be taken in the country you are applying for the visa from (the country where you are currently residing), and prior to making that application, whether that's your own country, the UK, or any other country.

    But this list is just a list of the tests that will be recognized and which examination body has set them, it's not a list of centres where you can take those tests. The list of approved test centres, for any country, hasn't been released yet.

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